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I am currently looking to upgrade to a better chassis from my pro4 and am looking into the xray line of cars. I have found a pretty cheap Xray T2 and was wondering what the differences between the T2 to the 007 and to the 008 are and if its possible to upgrade it. This is for a rubber car if that matters at all
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There are 50 difference between 007 and 008

• Based on the highly-successful T2 / T2’007 platform
• T2’008 prototype put 10 cars in top 20, set TQ, and claimed Vice-Champion title at European Championship and XRAY claimed title of European Junior Champion
• World’s first purpose-designed editions to meet specific ROAR, EFRA, FEMCA regulations:
- US Foam-Spec 6-cell Edition (#30 00012) – ROAR Spec
- EU Rubber-Spec 5-cell Edition (#30 0010) – EFRA Spec
- EU Rubber-Spec 6-cell Edition (#30 0011) – ROAR, EFRA, FEMCA Spec
• Less sensitive to changing track conditions, super-consistent performance during runs
• New centrally-positioned layshaft split bulkheads give improved balance thanks to better
weight distribution of the motor towards centerline for faster left-right transitions
• New ultra-lightweight bulkheads CNC-machined from premium Swiss 7075 T6 aluminum
• New motor mount bulkhead positions motor even lower
• New super-lightweight composite front Solid Axle with XRAY’s own smart Quick-change
outdrive system for easier and more comfortable outdrive exchange (EU Edition only); no
servicing and replacement of drive shaft blades – reduced costs for servicing
• New Solid Axle (EU Edition only) with the direct placement of drive shafts in outdrives
eliminates play between drive shaft and outdrives, improving steering precision and
increases overall steering
• New ultra-smooth composite adjustable ball-differential with XRAY Labyrinth Dust
Covers™ (US Edition front + rear, EU Edition rear only); eliminates need for drive shaft
blades = reduced servicing costs
• Specially-optimized drivetrain concept for specific foam- and rubber-tire racing conditions:
- US Edition: 34T front & rear diff pulleys / 20T center layshaft pulleys
- EU Edition: 38T front & rear diff pulleys / 16T center layshaft pulleys
• Specially-optimized drive shaft lengths for specific foam- and rubber-tire racing conditions:
- US Edition: standard 50mm CVD drive shafts for use with foam tires (which are
generally higher traction than rubber tires); optimum transfer of traction to the wheels
- EU Edition: new longer 52mm front/rear CVD drive shafts positioned more towards
centerline in diff/solid axle outdrives to generate more overall traction and make the car
easier to drive on low-traction tracks
• More rear position of rear diff for improved forward traction
• New premium-quality, longer rear drive belt with Kevlarฎ reinforcement
• Drive shafts and pulleys are fully compatible and interchangeable between EU and US
Editions
• New narrow top decks (both EU and US Editions)
• Servo saver positioned in absolute center of the chassis
• New center aluminum top deck mount specially designed for rubber tires on carpet
–decreases front suspension traction and eliminates front tires overheating, ensuring
consistent handling during runs
• New front bulkheads with extra reinforcement legs allow for additional chassis flex
adjustment from the bottom of the chassis
• New front and rear diff height independent adjustment
• New longer front & rear suspension arms for improved traction and easier handling
• New optimized shock mounting position for improving steering and traction
• Both suspension arms feature incorporated anti-roll bar mounts, with rear arms featuring
two different anti-roll bar mounts for super-fine adjustment of anti-roll bar; EU Edition
includes both front and rear 1.2mm anti-roll bars
• New C-hubs with larger opening for easier, faster & more comfortable
assembly/disassembly of the CVDs; prevents collision of CVD with C-hub in serious
crashes
• New C-hubs available in all standard caster angles (2ฐ, 4ฐ and 6ฐ) and two different
hardnesses (EU – medium, US – hard)
• New rear uprights with integrated 0ฐ toe-in to prevent suspension geometry change in
serious crashes and improved stability; available in two hardness (EU – medium,
US – hard)
• Steering blocks available in two hardness (EU – medium, US - hard)
• New shorter front suspension arms allow 2mm adjustment of front arm position
• New front & rear lower shock towers for lower CG and improved steering response
• Rear shock tower features new extra position for Quick Roll-Center™ position, the new
upper position allows the whole rear upper link to be positioned higher for improved
cornering speeds in long sweepers on open tracks
• New front shock tower specially machined for ultra-low weight without compromising
strength
• New shorter shock body and shock rod for improved suspension lift
• Front & rear shock towers feature new shock positions optimized for new shorter shock
absorbers
• New middle alu layshaft with centrally-positioned spur gear for improved balance
• Overall reduction in car weight
• EU Edition available in two different interchangeable chassis versions: 5-cell and 6-cell
• Brushless system ready and optimized
• LiPo 3200mAh ready and optimized (LiPo 4800mAh fits EU 2.5mm chassis only)


T2’008 Foam-Spec Edition - Extra Features:

• US Foam-Spec Edition (#30 0012) specially designed for foam tire racing conditions
• 3.5mm ultra-thick solid 6-cell chassis with milled area allow all parts to be mounted
ultra-low
• Wide top deck mounted to chassis via aluminum standoffs provides wide, ultra-stable,
solid platform
• New Extra-Hard foam-spec front and rear suspension arms – marked with “XH”
• New hard foam-spec steering blocks, C-hubs, and rear uprights
• New super-smooth adjustable composite front and rear ball-differentials with XRAY
Labyrinth Dust Covers™
• Standard-length 50mm Hudy Spring Steel™ CVD drive shafts
• 34T front and rear diff pulleys / 20T center layshaft pulleys
• Light purple and white springs
• 116T 64P spur gear – extra-hard material, wobble-free design
• ROAR spec for modified and stock racing


T2’008 EU Rubber-Spec Edition — Extra Features:

• EU Rubber-Spec Editions are specially designed for rubber tire racing conditions;
available in 5-cell (#30 0010) and 6-cell (#30 0011) chassis editions
• 2.5mm chassis
• Narrow top deck
• New hard rubber-spec front and rear suspension arms – marked with “H”
• New medium rubber-spec steering blocks, C-hubs, and rear uprights
• New front XRAY Composite Solid Axle
• New super-smooth adjustable composite rear ball-differential with XRAY Labyrinth Dust
Covers™
• New longer 52mm Hudy Spring Steel CVD drive shafts
• 38T front and rear pulleys / 16T center layshaft pulleys
• Front silver and rear gold racing springs
• 84T 48P spur gear – extra-hard material, wobble-free design
• 1.2mm front and rear anti-roll bars
• EFRA, ROAR, FEMCA spec for modified and stock racing


Main Specifications:

• All parts fully interchangeable between US Foam-Spec and EU Rubber-Spec Editions
• XRAY Quick Roll-Centers™ – 4 quick roll center adjustments front and 6 quick roll center
adjustments rear
• Race-proven T2 suspension geometry featuring lightweight, strong, and durable
suspension parts
• Rebuildable CVD driveshafts made from special world-renowned, top-secret,
self-developed HUDY Spring Steel™; these world’s tiniest yet most durable driveshafts
are hand ground for maximum precision
• New ultra-lightweight front and rear split bulkheads are CNC-machined from premium
Swiss 7075 T6 aluminum, allowing super-easy diff and layshaft access
• New centerline drivetrain concept with ultra-narrow chassis positions batteries and
electronics near car centerline
• Long top deck design minimizes tweak and increases stability
• Lightweight middle layshaft CNC-machined from aircraft aluminum
• Front lower and upper composite bumper made from special composite material to
withstand hard impacts
• Compact front foam bumper made from lightweight, high-resilience foam
• Thick 6mm body posts withstand serious crashes and flip-backs
• Front and rear top deck aluminum posts on US Foam-Spec Edition are integral parts of
Multi-Flex Technology™
• Lower suspension alu holders with three different roll center positions
• Small, robust rear uprights with built-in 0ฐ toe-in feature two upper roll
center positions which are easily adjusted using shims
• Easily adjustable inboard toe-in using included shims
• 7075 T6 aluminum wheel hubs
• Easily adjustable wheel offset using optional shims or optional offset wheel hubs
(-0.75mm, +0.75mm, +1.5mm)
•New shorter XRAY 4-step externally-adjustable shocks
• Shock shafts are specially hardened for maximum strength
• Shock absorber foam inserts for perfect shock rebound
• XRAY self-developed and manufactured ultimate racing springs are manually selected for
maximum precision, equal length, and equal damping characteristics
• Small 4ฐ caster C-blocks from special composite material, optional 2ฐ and 6ฐ caster
blocks available
• Small, robust steering blocks made from special composite material, featuring two
Ackermann positions
• Front and rear shock towers CNC-machined from 3mm graphite material with optimized
shock positions for rubber and foam tires, include optimized Quick Roll-Center™ positions
• Super easy to build, maintain, set up, and drive
• Unique XRAY Quick-Saver™ - 5 different Ackermann positions can be set thanks to smart
adjustable servo saver
• Aluminum self-locking wheel nuts


Other Specifications:

• Pure racing design, long life, ultra-stiff touring car
• Very easy assembly/disassembly and maintenance
• Fully independent, fully-adjustable suspension
• Highly-efficient 2-belt, 4WD system with world’s lowest CG
• High-performance Kevlarฎ-reinforced drive belts
• Centrally-positioned servo saver
• Adjustable Ackermann settings achieved by repositioning the bellcrank post forward or
backward + 5 additional positions available through XRAY Quick-Saver™
• Inline battery pack positioned along one side
• Composite battery backstops prevent battery movement on chassis
• Adjustable ultra smooth lightweight composite ball differential with carbide balls and
carbide axial thrustbearing
• Belt tensioning adjustment in both front and rear bulkheads
• Strong aluminum servo stands
• Adjustable HUDY Spring Steel™ turnbuckles (steering, front & rear upper links)
• Complete set of high-speed, blue-sealed ball-bearings, degreased, lightly oiled for
maximum efficiency, individually controlled, selected, and inspected


Adjustment Possibilities:

• Fully-adjustable front and rear suspension geometry: caster, camber, toe, anti-dive, anti-
squat, ride height, droop, track-width, roll center, and wheelbase
• XRAY Quick-Saver™ offers 5 different Ackermann positions for steering adjustment
• Adjustable ball differentials
• XRAY Quick Roll-Centers™
• Adjustable bulkheads for belt tension control
• Front and rear diff height adjustment
• Adjustable HUDY Spring Steel™ turnbuckles (steering, front & rear upper links)
• Multiple upper shock mounting locations at front and rear
• Externally-adjustable racing shocks (4-step)
• Pre-drilled chassis locations for optional chassis weights
• Adjustable front and rear anti-roll bars (optional for US Edition only)
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so more or less the 008 is a completely different car
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There are 50 difference between 007 and 008

• Based on the highly-successful T2 / T2’007 platform
• T2’008 prototype put 10 cars in top 20, set TQ, and claimed Vice-Champion title at European Championship and XRAY claimed title of European Junior Champion
• World’s first purpose-designed editions to meet specific ROAR, EFRA, FEMCA regulations:
- US Foam-Spec 6-cell Edition (#30 00012) – ROAR Spec
- EU Rubber-Spec 5-cell Edition (#30 0010) – EFRA Spec
- EU Rubber-Spec 6-cell Edition (#30 0011) – ROAR, EFRA, FEMCA Spec
• Less sensitive to changing track conditions, super-consistent performance during runs
• New centrally-positioned layshaft split bulkheads give improved balance thanks to better
weight distribution of the motor towards centerline for faster left-right transitions
• New ultra-lightweight bulkheads CNC-machined from premium Swiss 7075 T6 aluminum
• New motor mount bulkhead positions motor even lower
• New super-lightweight composite front Solid Axle with XRAY’s own smart Quick-change
outdrive system for easier and more comfortable outdrive exchange (EU Edition only); no
servicing and replacement of drive shaft blades – reduced costs for servicing
• New Solid Axle (EU Edition only) with the direct placement of drive shafts in outdrives
eliminates play between drive shaft and outdrives, improving steering precision and
increases overall steering
• New ultra-smooth composite adjustable ball-differential with XRAY Labyrinth Dust
Covers™ (US Edition front + rear, EU Edition rear only); eliminates need for drive shaft
blades = reduced servicing costs
• Specially-optimized drivetrain concept for specific foam- and rubber-tire racing conditions:
- US Edition: 34T front & rear diff pulleys / 20T center layshaft pulleys
- EU Edition: 38T front & rear diff pulleys / 16T center layshaft pulleys
• Specially-optimized drive shaft lengths for specific foam- and rubber-tire racing conditions:
- US Edition: standard 50mm CVD drive shafts for use with foam tires (which are
generally higher traction than rubber tires); optimum transfer of traction to the wheels
- EU Edition: new longer 52mm front/rear CVD drive shafts positioned more towards
centerline in diff/solid axle outdrives to generate more overall traction and make the car
easier to drive on low-traction tracks
• More rear position of rear diff for improved forward traction
• New premium-quality, longer rear drive belt with Kevlarฎ reinforcement
• Drive shafts and pulleys are fully compatible and interchangeable between EU and US
Editions
• New narrow top decks (both EU and US Editions)
• Servo saver positioned in absolute center of the chassis
• New center aluminum top deck mount specially designed for rubber tires on carpet
–decreases front suspension traction and eliminates front tires overheating, ensuring
consistent handling during runs
• New front bulkheads with extra reinforcement legs allow for additional chassis flex
adjustment from the bottom of the chassis
• New front and rear diff height independent adjustment
• New longer front & rear suspension arms for improved traction and easier handling
• New optimized shock mounting position for improving steering and traction
• Both suspension arms feature incorporated anti-roll bar mounts, with rear arms featuring
two different anti-roll bar mounts for super-fine adjustment of anti-roll bar; EU Edition
includes both front and rear 1.2mm anti-roll bars
• New C-hubs with larger opening for easier, faster & more comfortable
assembly/disassembly of the CVDs; prevents collision of CVD with C-hub in serious
crashes
• New C-hubs available in all standard caster angles (2ฐ, 4ฐ and 6ฐ) and two different
hardnesses (EU – medium, US – hard)
• New rear uprights with integrated 0ฐ toe-in to prevent suspension geometry change in
serious crashes and improved stability; available in two hardness (EU – medium,
US – hard)
• Steering blocks available in two hardness (EU – medium, US - hard)
• New shorter front suspension arms allow 2mm adjustment of front arm position
• New front & rear lower shock towers for lower CG and improved steering response
• Rear shock tower features new extra position for Quick Roll-Center™ position, the new
upper position allows the whole rear upper link to be positioned higher for improved
cornering speeds in long sweepers on open tracks
• New front shock tower specially machined for ultra-low weight without compromising
strength
• New shorter shock body and shock rod for improved suspension lift
• Front & rear shock towers feature new shock positions optimized for new shorter shock
absorbers
• New middle alu layshaft with centrally-positioned spur gear for improved balance
• Overall reduction in car weight
• EU Edition available in two different interchangeable chassis versions: 5-cell and 6-cell
• Brushless system ready and optimized
• LiPo 3200mAh ready and optimized (LiPo 4800mAh fits EU 2.5mm chassis only)


T2’008 Foam-Spec Edition - Extra Features:

• US Foam-Spec Edition (#30 0012) specially designed for foam tire racing conditions
• 3.5mm ultra-thick solid 6-cell chassis with milled area allow all parts to be mounted
ultra-low
• Wide top deck mounted to chassis via aluminum standoffs provides wide, ultra-stable,
solid platform
• New Extra-Hard foam-spec front and rear suspension arms – marked with “XH”
• New hard foam-spec steering blocks, C-hubs, and rear uprights
• New super-smooth adjustable composite front and rear ball-differentials with XRAY
Labyrinth Dust Covers™
• Standard-length 50mm Hudy Spring Steel™ CVD drive shafts
• 34T front and rear diff pulleys / 20T center layshaft pulleys
• Light purple and white springs
• 116T 64P spur gear – extra-hard material, wobble-free design
• ROAR spec for modified and stock racing


T2’008 EU Rubber-Spec Edition — Extra Features:

• EU Rubber-Spec Editions are specially designed for rubber tire racing conditions;
available in 5-cell (#30 0010) and 6-cell (#30 0011) chassis editions
• 2.5mm chassis
• Narrow top deck
• New hard rubber-spec front and rear suspension arms – marked with “H”
• New medium rubber-spec steering blocks, C-hubs, and rear uprights
• New front XRAY Composite Solid Axle
• New super-smooth adjustable composite rear ball-differential with XRAY Labyrinth Dust
Covers™
• New longer 52mm Hudy Spring Steel CVD drive shafts
• 38T front and rear pulleys / 16T center layshaft pulleys
• Front silver and rear gold racing springs
• 84T 48P spur gear – extra-hard material, wobble-free design
• 1.2mm front and rear anti-roll bars
• EFRA, ROAR, FEMCA spec for modified and stock racing


Main Specifications:

• All parts fully interchangeable between US Foam-Spec and EU Rubber-Spec Editions
• XRAY Quick Roll-Centers™ – 4 quick roll center adjustments front and 6 quick roll center
adjustments rear
• Race-proven T2 suspension geometry featuring lightweight, strong, and durable
suspension parts
• Rebuildable CVD driveshafts made from special world-renowned, top-secret,
self-developed HUDY Spring Steel™; these world’s tiniest yet most durable driveshafts
are hand ground for maximum precision
• New ultra-lightweight front and rear split bulkheads are CNC-machined from premium
Swiss 7075 T6 aluminum, allowing super-easy diff and layshaft access
• New centerline drivetrain concept with ultra-narrow chassis positions batteries and
electronics near car centerline
• Long top deck design minimizes tweak and increases stability
• Lightweight middle layshaft CNC-machined from aircraft aluminum
• Front lower and upper composite bumper made from special composite material to
withstand hard impacts
• Compact front foam bumper made from lightweight, high-resilience foam
• Thick 6mm body posts withstand serious crashes and flip-backs
• Front and rear top deck aluminum posts on US Foam-Spec Edition are integral parts of
Multi-Flex Technology™
• Lower suspension alu holders with three different roll center positions
• Small, robust rear uprights with built-in 0ฐ toe-in feature two upper roll
center positions which are easily adjusted using shims
• Easily adjustable inboard toe-in using included shims
• 7075 T6 aluminum wheel hubs
• Easily adjustable wheel offset using optional shims or optional offset wheel hubs
(-0.75mm, +0.75mm, +1.5mm)
•New shorter XRAY 4-step externally-adjustable shocks
• Shock shafts are specially hardened for maximum strength
• Shock absorber foam inserts for perfect shock rebound
• XRAY self-developed and manufactured ultimate racing springs are manually selected for
maximum precision, equal length, and equal damping characteristics
• Small 4ฐ caster C-blocks from special composite material, optional 2ฐ and 6ฐ caster
blocks available
• Small, robust steering blocks made from special composite material, featuring two
Ackermann positions
• Front and rear shock towers CNC-machined from 3mm graphite material with optimized
shock positions for rubber and foam tires, include optimized Quick Roll-Center™ positions
• Super easy to build, maintain, set up, and drive
• Unique XRAY Quick-Saver™ - 5 different Ackermann positions can be set thanks to smart
adjustable servo saver
• Aluminum self-locking wheel nuts


Other Specifications:

• Pure racing design, long life, ultra-stiff touring car
• Very easy assembly/disassembly and maintenance
• Fully independent, fully-adjustable suspension
• Highly-efficient 2-belt, 4WD system with world’s lowest CG
• High-performance Kevlarฎ-reinforced drive belts
• Centrally-positioned servo saver
• Adjustable Ackermann settings achieved by repositioning the bellcrank post forward or
backward + 5 additional positions available through XRAY Quick-Saver™
• Inline battery pack positioned along one side
• Composite battery backstops prevent battery movement on chassis
• Adjustable ultra smooth lightweight composite ball differential with carbide balls and
carbide axial thrustbearing
• Belt tensioning adjustment in both front and rear bulkheads
• Strong aluminum servo stands
• Adjustable HUDY Spring Steel™ turnbuckles (steering, front & rear upper links)
• Complete set of high-speed, blue-sealed ball-bearings, degreased, lightly oiled for
maximum efficiency, individually controlled, selected, and inspected


Adjustment Possibilities:

• Fully-adjustable front and rear suspension geometry: caster, camber, toe, anti-dive, anti-
squat, ride height, droop, track-width, roll center, and wheelbase
• XRAY Quick-Saver™ offers 5 different Ackermann positions for steering adjustment
• Adjustable ball differentials
• XRAY Quick Roll-Centers™
• Adjustable bulkheads for belt tension control
• Front and rear diff height adjustment
• Adjustable HUDY Spring Steel™ turnbuckles (steering, front & rear upper links)
• Multiple upper shock mounting locations at front and rear
• Externally-adjustable racing shocks (4-step)
• Pre-drilled chassis locations for optional chassis weights
• Adjustable front and rear anti-roll bars (optional for US Edition only)
And not one of them are faster than the other. Buy which ever one you can get a better deal on.
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well i found a base T2 for a really cheap price and figured i could at least upgrade it to a 007 EU or hopefully most everything is the same incase something breaks
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true If your budget tight go for 007
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So can a T2 be upgraded to a 007? And if so what parts are needed?
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So can a T2 be upgraded to a 007? And if so what parts are needed?
Not really. The bulkheads, top deck, lower chassis, shock towers, etc... are all different. It is cheaper to sell the T2 and get a '007 if that's what you want.
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Shadow you cant go wrong with the 007 EU kit, most of us that you run with at Primetime run that chassis and are very competitive. Only like 4 guys are running the 008
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So can a T2 be upgraded to a 007? And if so what parts are needed?
Yes you can upgrade a T2 to a 007. Xray offers a conversion kit for both EU & US Spec.

EU Spec
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It would prolly be a lot cheaper in the long run to just get a used 007 then upgrading a used T2.
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Shadow you cant go wrong with the 007 EU kit, most of us that you run with at Primetime run that chassis and are very competitive. Only like 4 guys are running the 008
yeah since i unloaded my nitro car today i am looking to upgrade my touring car. Just checking my options right now and gathering info. Right now its between a xray because nexus is close, Cyclone because i already have a Pro4 and parts interchange...and a TC5 just because i have always liked associated products
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cool deal you cant go wrong with any of those three
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Ok i found a 007 in my price range but the problem is that its a US spec car and i run rubber. is it worth it to convert to the EU or should i just keep waiting for a EU spec car to come around? And if its worth it to convert what would i need to do so?
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Ok i found a 007 in my price range but the problem is that its a US spec car and i run rubber. is it worth it to convert to the EU or should i just keep waiting for a EU spec car to come around? And if its worth it to convert what would i need to do so?
You really only need the chassis, upper deck, possibly some 2 or 4 degree C hubs, and a multi diff or spool. I run my 007 US as a EU with all the XH parts and have had no issues.
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Thanks

and XH parts?
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