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Old 02-05-2009, 09:25 PM   #1396
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Why do you guys at Tamiya insist on using cheap soft aluminum screws in your kits ? please choose one...

A) We would rather piss off our loyal customers then to spend an extra .32 cents per kit on regular screws.

B) We are completely unaware that this situation has been occurring for the past 15 years...

C) People expect low quality aluminum screws with there Tamiya kits...

D) We have been aware of our poor quality screws for years but we just don't give a sh_t...

E) We put high quality screws in all our kits but Aliens remove them in shipping...

F) Mr Yoshida and Mr Tamiya have had a 15 year long bet as to how long they can get away with using The Cheapest Screw Known To Man...

G) We are aware of the situation but everyone in the company is too much of a pu__y to let there boss know...

H) What screws ?
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:46 PM   #1397
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Has anyone started running 48p gears in their 103r or 103rm yet? I'm running stock Silver can and I'd like to know a good starting point for pinion/spur.

We're running 120' x 60' track.

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Old 02-05-2009, 10:21 PM   #1398
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Has anyone started running 48p gears in their 103r or 103rm yet? I'm running stock Silver can and I'd like to know a good starting point for pinion/spur.

We're running 120' x 60' track.

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48p? Always.

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Old 02-05-2009, 10:23 PM   #1399
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Why does Tamiya consistantly use crappy soft aluminum screws???? Anyone??? I would gladly spring for the extra .50 cent per kit just to have normal screws... sorry.... I just had to get it off my chest...
What are you talking about? Steel screws are less expensive than aluminum screws. The only aluminum screws in a tamiya F1 kit are the front end screws, and if you had a decent tol kit, you would never strip one. Stop using your wal-mart/K-mart tool kit and build it like it should be built with grown-up tools!
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:52 AM   #1400
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What are you talking about? Steel screws are less expensive than aluminum screws. The only aluminum screws in a tamiya F1 kit are the front end screws, and if you had a decent tol kit, you would never strip one. Stop using your wal-mart/K-mart tool kit and build it like it should be built with grown-up tools!
i stripped one of mine on the F103R and i can tell you now, i wasnt using cheap kmart tools... IMHO a good tool with a hardened tip will do MORE damage to a cheap nasty screw head.. personally i think I overtightened the screw the first time, as opposed to blaming my tools!
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:17 AM   #1401
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:38 AM   #1402
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i stripped one of mine on the F103R and i can tell you now, i wasnt using cheap kmart tools... IMHO a good tool with a hardened tip will do MORE damage to a cheap nasty screw head.. personally i think I overtightened the screw the first time, as opposed to blaming my tools!
The screws suck period... I replaced all mine with steel hex screws, and they even match the color of the chassis.
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:58 AM   #1403
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Why do you guys at Tamiya insist on using cheap soft aluminum screws in your kits ? please choose one...
I) Putting aluminum screws on the front saves mass in a place where every gram counts.

J) Replacing a sheared aluminum screw from a front end collision is much easier/cheaper to fix than having it rip out from the bottom pan.

It sounds like you have just had a battle to remove a damaged screw that no screwdriver known to man could have removed. Been there done that, and made a trip over to ACE hardware to find a stainless hex replacement.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:13 AM   #1404
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What are you talking about? Steel screws are less expensive than aluminum screws. The only aluminum screws in a tamiya F1 kit are the front end screws, and if you had a decent tol kit, you would never strip one. Stop using your wal-mart/K-mart tool kit and build it like it should be built with grown-up tools!
I have to agree with everything youíve said. I'd like to add an OMG! Are you kidding me to that.

What kit are you talking about? Tamiya doesnít sell an F1 loaded with aluminum screws. The only two screws that match your description are the ones at the front of the car.

Iíve built a couple of the Tamiya F1ís and non F1's, Iíve used a few of their aluminum screws in those kitsÖIf you're replacing the kit screws with aluminum alan head screws...donít monkey paw the thing together and you shouldnít have a problem. They donít need 100lbs of torque to hold everything in place. Not sure if this is the problem but if the screws keep coming loose or seizing from impacts, thatís not the screws fault.

Sorry everyone, I just had to get that off my chest.

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Looks loike we have another Tamiya body set coming...Type C #84070

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=84070
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Looks loike we have another Tamiya body set coming...Type C #84070

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=84070
I noticed that too. I was trying to figure out what it could be, what the ďCĒ stands for.

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Does anyone else have any ideas?
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Looks like a Mercedes group C car.

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Lightfoot - get ur butt back racing Mini-Z! And the Tamiya aluminum screws I've seen are pretty decent. The titanium screws are the ones that are crap - best bet is to use an oversized 5/64" wrench on them but they still strip and snap.
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:34 PM   #1409
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John,

I saw some aluminium ride height adjusters from 3Racing on RCMart.

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I've got a couple sets of those. I'm thinking more for TCS. Those height adjusters work well with the 3 Racing rear pod though.
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i recently swapped all my alum screws for titanium hex screws, the funny thing is, the front end alum screws are the same exact weight (down to .01 oz) as the square rc titanium front end titanium screws.

may i ask the benefit of havin the shock mounted to the lower chassis instead of the upper?

its a f103gt that i have converted the front end to accept the f103lm wheels from tamiya and other similar brands.
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