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Old 10-15-2008, 12:51 PM   #496
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What is M-type and T-type body? anyone got a pix of them?
Tamiya doesn't have the licenses to call them a "Mclaren" or "Tyrell" so instead they're calling them the "M-Type" and "T-Type"
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:52 PM   #497
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WOW! thanks! i didn't know there are so many version of F103.
I didn't realize there were that many either. I believe only the last two are still in production though.
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Last question aobut my kit:

-I'm assuming I paint the front nose. It comes white in the kit. I will have to paint both sides of it red also, correct?
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:58 PM   #499
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Any other opinions about gearing before I order pinions? I will be running a 93t spur and a pinion in the high 20s or low 30s (64p) has been recommended. The motor is a 27T 30 (high revs). Medium sized medium grip outdoor asphalt track.
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I didn't realize there were that many either. I believe only the last two are still in production though.
That is the complete lineage, the only one currently in production is the RM w/T body kit.

The rm w/ M body was a limited production run and is still available but no more kits are being made. The GT chassis & GT courage kits are also still available but out of production.

The anniversary kit is scheduled for release in December and the L body RM kit is being released Nov 28th.

For those looking to get a new car I would recommend buying the M body kit along with a T body set since that is the only way to get both bodies without buying 2 kits.

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That is the complete lineage, the only one currently in production is the RM w/T body kit.

The rm w/ M body was a limited production run and is still available but no more kits are being made. The GT chassis & GT courage kits are also still available but out of production.

The anniversary kit is scheduled for release in December and the L body RM kit is being released Nov 28th.

For those looking to get a new car I would recommend buying the M body kit along with a T body set since that is the only way to get both bodies without buying 2 kits.

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Is there a part number on the T and L bodies separately yet?

I currently have 2 M bodies that haven't run yet. I'm tempted to put them away in the interest of protecting them.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:17 PM   #502
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What is the L body? Any pics?
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:22 PM   #503
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What is the L body? Any pics?
Rumor has it, its the old Lotus 107B body set.
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Tires: Definitely only do one or the other, not both. When I had my F103 many years ago I used the double sided tape and never had a problem with the tires coming loose. Some people opt to use the tried/true method of gluing them, its just a personal preference. I'd suggest that if you are going to glue them don't use the old school method of using contact cement and dipping them in laquer thinner because I believe the Tamiya wheels will melt in the thinner.

Paint: Some do it one way, others do it the other way. My personal preference is to cut the body out first and then paint it. The reason I do it that way is because I've found that if I paint first I wind up scratching the paint when cutting it out. Just make sure you cover the other side of the body with something so it doesn't get overspray on it.
When it comes to mounting the tires I've always found the glue to be the better of the two choices. This is just my personal opinion of course. The process is a little messier, but the tires seem to hold onto the wheel better. For me the glue seems to let go after a few coats of tire sauce.

Paint: I usually cut the body out first, before painting. I do this for two reasons. It lets me check the fit of everything in the car. If a wire is rubbing I can move it, if the motor pod is rubbing I can trim the body, etc. etc. I too have had some bad luck trimming the body and removing paint. Not cool in my opinion.

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thanks for the info hobbipro...will take a look. It sounds like it's possible, but might look a little messy....thanks again
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If you mount the tires with contact cement (old school!), you can re use the rims by submerging them in laquer thinner until the tire remnants fall off.
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Thanks Tommi! Here's a lineup of all the F-103 chassis released by Tamiya...

Got it F-103 - the standard chassis... (Sauber C12, Ferrari 412T1)
Got it F-103L - long wheelbase version (+1 inch) for Indy Bodies (Newman Haas Lola Ford, Rahal Hogan Lola Honda)
Got it F-103RS - with some hop ups (chassis only)
Got it F-103RX - with a few more hop-ups (chassis only)
Got it F-103LM - with wide plate main chassis and LeMans body (Toyota GT-one, Audi R8R)
Missed it F-103LM TRF - wide plate main chassis with max hopups (chassis only)
Got it F-103GT - standard chassis with parts to use touring car tires (chassis only, Courage LC70 Mugen)
Got it F-103RM - basically an evolution of the F-103RX (M-type, T-type)
Getting it F-103R - the anniversary version

Damn that's allot of variations of one chassis. Does anyone else remember when it was just the Road Wizzard, then the F101 and F102. Not F102**, or F102R* or TRF Road Wizzard MSXXXRE. It's sort of funny. I thought the 415 had allot of rolling changes.
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Is there a part number on the T and L bodies separately yet?

I currently have 2 M bodies that haven't run yet. I'm tempted to put them away in the interest of protecting them.
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What is the L body? Any pics?
The T body p/n is 1825539 and is the only replacement body set currently available.

The L body has not yet been released, I am not sure when or if a spare body kit will be available but the complete car kit is set to be released in Japan on Nov 28th.

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If you mount the tires with contact cement (old school!), you can re use the rims by submerging them in laquer thinner until the tire remnants fall off.
Have you tried that with the Tamiya wheels? I've heard that the laquer thinner will melt the Tamiya wheels because they're made of ABS.
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Ok, I got my car together. Didnt take me too long, maybe a little less than 3 hours.

Tomorrow I will paint my body. Do I paint the front spoiler the same color as the body? Do I use the same paint for it? Also, what paint do I use to paint the interior?

I also bought the optional Tamiya damper today too. The package says its for the F103GT but can it be used ont he F103RM? Please let me know.


I am new to these kits. Can someone please explain the difference in F1 bodies to me please. Pics would be great!
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