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Old 04-30-2008, 12:49 PM   #1
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What does everyone think?.

Since its hard to get rubbers why not foams?.

Has anyone tried this?. just wandering.
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As long as Jaco gets the tires / wheels fixed, there should not be an issue. It's going to be a rough few weeks as all the tires dry up, but things look promising.

As for foams, I think it's more of a "standard" to run rubber instead of foams. And more than likely, the overall cost would rise for racing, just like on carpet.

Do any manufacturers even have a electric specific foam for asphalt? I know they make them for nitro, but I thought most of the foams are designed for carpet.
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We tried it for a year. It works (obviously b/c Nitro cars use them). They wear pretty quickly if people start using really soft compounds. Which makes it really expensive. Its just not as much fun in my opinion either.
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As long as Jaco gets the tires / wheels fixed, there should not be an issue. It's going to be a rough few weeks as all the tires dry up, but things look promising.

As for foams, I think it's more of a "standard" to run rubber instead of foams. And more than likely, the overall cost would rise for racing, just like on carpet.

Do any manufacturers even have a electric specific foam for asphalt? I know they make them for nitro, but I thought most of the foams are designed for carpet.

Its not jaco..its everyone.

Years ago thats what they ran..foams.

I think cost would be the same or cheeper
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Somebody call Al's doctor..he's off his med's.............
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Its not jaco..its everyone.

Years ago thats what they ran..foams.

I think cost would be the same or cheeper
Referring to Jaco as they are supposed to be the "new rp30". With the RP and CS tires gone, their are some pretty big shoes to fill, and most are hoping / expecting Jaco to be the one to fill said shoes. Also w/ Great Planes taking over dist. for Much More, their tires should be more available than before.

Well, years ago you also had to walk 5 miles to school uphill both ways too

I just cant see foams being cheaper to run. They chunk and just wear out faster, especially on asphalt. Also not being able to run them as low as on carpet, you get less runs per tire. With a decent set up, and the right tires, rubbers can last 30 plus runs, just ask Larry
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Also w/ Great Planes taking over dist. for Much More, their tires should be more available than before.
What Much More tires are good for asphalt?
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as the tire world turns...

every couple years the hobby cycles between rubber and foam. funny stuff to watch.
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My club races with foams in a parking lot. We use nitro foams. If you run 40 or less thay last a long time. Remember electric cars weigh less than nitro. We run foams and no weight. We use soda for traction compound. You can get a set of foams for 20 bucks. We also don't true the tires. They only chunk if you hit the pipe a lot.
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For cost saving I think they should run rubber on Carpet and Foams on asphalt. It is a lot cheaper that way.....and by foams I'm not talking about running carpet foam compounds on asphalt....

I like running rubber tires on my electric sedan on any surface...
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If you run nitro foams, it's actually not bad, cost wise. Nitro foam is way cheaper, and also lasts a lot longer, as the rubber is different.

Running carpet tires will convince you that foam is not good on asphalt.

I have run foam on asphalt at different times, and we learned fast nitro foam is the only way to go.
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First off, I would rather run rubber.

Its just the newer batch dont last.Last years tires and anything before the birds last great.Anything newer last one run....30.00 dollars pretty expensive

Older tires last 10 plus runs,so its not the race surface.

Just trying to get answers have have fun racing..
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Seems all MFG tires as of recent are all doing the same thing..Peeling, seems there all missing something in compound. I know all the firmer 36 compond tires I have tried none have come appart. maybe the firmer rubber has a diffrent agent in tire that helps cure the rubber better.....
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re: TIRE LIFE.... i've always run sorex on asphalt and they always run good and last long.....
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I see GRP are making foams specific for electric asphalt.
Check http://www.grpgandini.com/uk/index.html
They are all 26mm wide and come in either 42 or 37 which seems strange. And 2 dia sizes. Ide go for the bigger ones @ 66mm. The 60's wouldnt last long.

We have used foams for electric touring on asphalt for years over here.
GRP's, ATS's nitro foams are my choice in 35, 37 shores. Run fronts on front(26mm) and rears on rear(30mm) and dont run the fronts on the rear as they are slightly different shores from front to rear. If you want 26mm rear you can cut a 30mm rear down.
I think I get about 8 - 10 runs from a full set of 37's and less on 35's but thats on my home track which is very corse and high wearing.
Ide expect 15 runs on a smooth track with 37's.
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