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Old 11-26-2002, 10:44 PM
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sengming, his car is the Worlds replica 414M, meaning they come as they look in the pic.....
They are fluorine coated.
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Old 11-27-2002, 12:26 AM
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Old 11-27-2002, 12:56 AM
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Hi,

Can any of you Guys exp0lain to me in details, what effects does it have if I put spacers under the rear upper arms or the front tourqe rods. I am kind of lost on this!

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Old 11-27-2002, 12:58 AM
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apparenly, it can make or break ur steering to an extent. i did what aurra did on his set up, tried it on the track, and i hav awesome steering/handling. my car is planted to the ground. I still feel it could be a little more dialed in. but right now, my car is pretty glued to the track.
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Old 11-27-2002, 01:04 AM
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didnt kno if i "had" to mention as well but of course...the anti squat, roll center, etc can help too. putting spacers under the blocks
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Old 11-27-2002, 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by reflekt
apparenly, it can make or break ur steering to an extent. i did what aurra did on his set up, tried it on the track, and i hav awesome steering/handling. my car is planted to the ground. I still feel it could be a little more dialed in. but right now, my car is pretty glued to the track.
Can you tell me what is this set-up?
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Old 11-27-2002, 01:26 AM
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basically i have..

front upper links: 1mm
rear upper links : 5mm

FF: 0.7mm
FR: 2mm

RF: 3mm
RR: 2mm

outer most hole for shock body positions. i think i might move a hole in or two. see how the car runs with those setups. but right now, the car seems pretty dialed in at my track. peaches.
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Old 11-27-2002, 01:38 AM
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Thanx!

What my problem is I understand the end result but I am lost with the details.
Therefore my question is:What happens if I put small or large spacers to the front and the same changes go to the back?
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Old 11-27-2002, 08:36 AM
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Note that reflekt's setup is for an asphault track (So Cal.)

I heard a lower roll center (less spacers overall) is optimal for carpet, but I still haven't tried carpet personally.

A higher roll center in the rear (more spacers in rear) will give you more mid-corner steering, gentle turn-in. Higher roll center in front will give you more turn-in.
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My 414m worlds and dad,s X-ray
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Old 11-27-2002, 09:40 AM
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Anyone got an e-mail adress for them

support section would be great

checked all my hindge pins etc and i still can,t sort out the rear tow-in

i,ve checked it and checked it again and it,s still 2 deg on 1 side and 3 on the other

i now feel completely sure it,s gotto be a chassis drilling fault however unlikely it is !!

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right now, i only have a few spacers underneath the suspension blocks. i'm going to add more and increase the height, for the roll center later on. but that requires dremeling/shaving of the rear arms a little bit. but for now, this setup is good to me. i'm sure if i did increase the height, it would give me even better handling. some guys at the track have their blocks high on spacers. some 5mm/4mm and some even 6mm/4mm (Rear). peaches.
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Old 11-27-2002, 10:16 AM
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The higher you raise the blocks the more it decreases traction, to a point, be carefull on the front cuase the belt will hit the block.

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Old 11-27-2002, 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Casey
The higher you raise the blocks the more it decreases traction, to a point, be carefull on the front cuase the belt will hit the block.

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This is why you flip the block over so the belt passes under the block.....
Only do this when it is at a height around the "true" worlds setup...
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you are correct sir, I was wondering if I go any higher, would I dremmel the block or flip it, thatk you for setting me straight, before I cut the block in half !!
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