Tekin RS ESC sensored
10-07-2009, 12:37 AM
#7411
10-07-2009, 06:58 AM
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Hey Randy,
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
10-07-2009, 07:11 AM
#7413
Tech Master
Hey Randy,
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
They all use timing that is added later to get more top speed.
10-07-2009, 07:15 AM
#7414
Hey Randy,
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
Not to make light of your issue, but there's no way to enforce such an arbitrary ban. As much as we like to deny it sometimes, Tekin doesn't have the only fast, advanced speedo out there. Are they banning them all? Only certain profiles allowed on the SPX?
10-07-2009, 07:49 AM
#7415
Tech Master
Don't forget the Teamwave, GM Genius, Orion and Speedpassion.
And this are not all of them. There are a lot of stock spec speedo's and as I was you get a extra one and you drive them nuts!!
With the GM you will also win on the straight of them. Soon they will not now what to do!!
I don't think that they understand that almost all the new speedo's are stock spec faster than the old ones and informing them about it will not work.
Even withoud the Turbo the Speedo is faster than the LRP TC and Novak speedo's!!!
And this are not all of them. There are a lot of stock spec speedo's and as I was you get a extra one and you drive them nuts!!
With the GM you will also win on the straight of them. Soon they will not now what to do!!
I don't think that they understand that almost all the new speedo's are stock spec faster than the old ones and informing them about it will not work.
Even withoud the Turbo the Speedo is faster than the LRP TC and Novak speedo's!!!
10-07-2009, 08:56 AM
#7417
Tech Master
Set the motor to 0 for more acceleration power
More timing will give more RPM's but gear than lighter.
Gear 0,5FDR lighter than a LRP or Speedpassion motor.
As you give some extra info I can give you more settings.
10-07-2009, 09:00 AM
#7418
Hey Randy,
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
We "could" do something like this, sure. Will we? No. There simply isn't a demand for this. Oval guys will remember this clearly as they were only allowed to run a certain LRP speedo and a Novak.
Are they allowing the SPX? If they are than I see no reason to disallow the Tekin Turbo feature. The only thing the hosting track would do is to have a Tech official plug into each Tekin car as they get placed on the track to verify the turbo is off.
There is more improvements being worked on right now to go even faster, are they going to disallow it too? What if we were to not even give the improvement a title and simply said it was "new software" and the performance was better? This is a can of worms that I think the hosting track/event should consider...
If the end result is that you have to run Tekin to be competitive, run Tekin. When the SPX first came out, this is what our Team/Tekin Users had to struggle against until we improved the software.
I'm going to peak at the thread...be back in a few.
10-07-2009, 09:52 AM
#7419
Tech Master
LOL, well if you're going fast I suppose you've got to be cheating right?!
We "could" do something like this, sure. Will we? No. There simply isn't a demand for this. Oval guys will remember this clearly as they were only allowed to run a certain LRP speedo and a Novak.
Are they allowing the SPX? If they are than I see no reason to disallow the Tekin Turbo feature. The only thing the hosting track would do is to have a Tech official plug into each Tekin car as they get placed on the track to verify the turbo is off.
There is more improvements being worked on right now to go even faster, are they going to disallow it too? What if we were to not even give the improvement a title and simply said it was "new software" and the performance was better? This is a can of worms that I think the hosting track/event should consider...
If the end result is that you have to run Tekin to be competitive, run Tekin. When the SPX first came out, this is what our Team/Tekin Users had to struggle against until we improved the software.
I'm going to peak at the thread...be back in a few.
We "could" do something like this, sure. Will we? No. There simply isn't a demand for this. Oval guys will remember this clearly as they were only allowed to run a certain LRP speedo and a Novak.
Are they allowing the SPX? If they are than I see no reason to disallow the Tekin Turbo feature. The only thing the hosting track would do is to have a Tech official plug into each Tekin car as they get placed on the track to verify the turbo is off.
There is more improvements being worked on right now to go even faster, are they going to disallow it too? What if we were to not even give the improvement a title and simply said it was "new software" and the performance was better? This is a can of worms that I think the hosting track/event should consider...
If the end result is that you have to run Tekin to be competitive, run Tekin. When the SPX first came out, this is what our Team/Tekin Users had to struggle against until we improved the software.
I'm going to peak at the thread...be back in a few.
Wow I think that they must forbid the Tekin speedo's!!!
10-07-2009, 10:10 AM
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Not going to start a fight here, but wasnt that the case after the IIC... everyone was hinting that the CRC/AE ESC drivers had some black magic going on with that ESC that wasnt 100% legal. Just because they were faster. I know you were kidding, but isnt that just how R/C goes?
10-07-2009, 10:15 AM
#7421
Randy,
Just a thought…has Tekin thought about creating profiles similar to how the SPX works? Not to negate the Hotwire, but to offer baseline profiles and can be programmed with the ESC. I see that this could be beneficial for your average Joe racer who does not want to do the programming with a PC, but can still get the benefits of the timing and boost features of the RS. The Hotwire can and would still be used for updates and customizing setups the same way it is now. The only flack I get form non RS users, mostly SPX guys, is that they just want to press a few buttons and use profile 7 or 8 drop their cars on the track and go. I personally like to get into the programming and test different settings. I would think that offering both options would further set apart Tekin from its competitors.
I race in the Hurricane Series, albeit not in VTA (too spec for me)…and I was just thinking if the Tekin users were just using “profile 10” and kicking butt then the other driver couldn’t complain about turbo.
The SPX has “turbo” but it’s just part of the profile.
You get the idea…
Thanks.
Just a thought…has Tekin thought about creating profiles similar to how the SPX works? Not to negate the Hotwire, but to offer baseline profiles and can be programmed with the ESC. I see that this could be beneficial for your average Joe racer who does not want to do the programming with a PC, but can still get the benefits of the timing and boost features of the RS. The Hotwire can and would still be used for updates and customizing setups the same way it is now. The only flack I get form non RS users, mostly SPX guys, is that they just want to press a few buttons and use profile 7 or 8 drop their cars on the track and go. I personally like to get into the programming and test different settings. I would think that offering both options would further set apart Tekin from its competitors.
I race in the Hurricane Series, albeit not in VTA (too spec for me)…and I was just thinking if the Tekin users were just using “profile 10” and kicking butt then the other driver couldn’t complain about turbo.
The SPX has “turbo” but it’s just part of the profile.You get the idea…
Thanks.
10-07-2009, 10:48 AM
#7422
Hey Randy,
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
Wanted to draw your attention to a thread going on for a local points series:
http://www.rctech.net/forum/wisconsi...series-17.html
The discussion in this case if VTA restricting the use of the "turbo" feature on the Tekins as they see it as an unfair advantage. The series has now banned the feature for those cars, but the issue I see is enforcement.
This isnt the first time I have read about people wanting to restrict Tekin functionality for some spec classes. Any chance you are thinking of releasing a "spec" firmware or a "turbo" free firmware that is easily Identifyable by looking at the ESC for some of these classes.
I see the policing of this kind of stuff to be a real kill joy for those who run Tekins, and if an easy inspection (like a certain series of lights lit at Neutral on the ESC to ID the "spec" firmware) would make this easier for those who need to compete in those classes.
10-07-2009, 03:40 PM
#7425
Tech Adept
RS 200 and DUO2 13.5
hi guys could anyone please give me a starting setting for an indoor tc track (carpet and rubber tires) the track size is approximately 100ft x 50ft and should be fairly flowing, we will not find out the track layout until the day of the race meeting.
This will be using 200 software and a duo2 13.5 motor (what motor timing and gearing should i start on as well as speedo settings)
This will be using 200 software and a duo2 13.5 motor (what motor timing and gearing should i start on as well as speedo settings)