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Old 02-19-2010, 05:27 AM   #12406
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and watch out for that USB cable getting hot with all your setup changes...

I can see it now, temping motors, escs and the USB cable, might have to put a fan on it
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:35 AM   #12407
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I can see it now, temping motors, escs and the USB cable, might have to put a fan on it

LOL, good call...

Just don't try skimming the fan motor if you get bored with the virtually 0 maintainance on the r/c motor....
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:44 AM   #12408
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I'd be careful running the X12 without changing the insert first. I span it up and it was overtimed with the 0 insert on 30 boost (40 on the motor by default apparently) so with the above setup, you've got 75 degrees at the top of the boost range, then another 10 at full throttle (85 in total)

Try it by all means, but temp it after a minute or two. Personally I think it's too much timing.
i thought it was 15 but that must be the x11 motor

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So what are you saying. To take some timing out of the motor with one of the inserts?
either the motor or timing boost,try 10 and turbo 10 and watch temps
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:46 AM   #12409
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so you liked it then ? hahaha i think TEKIN is going to have to up their manufacturing for a while to cope with the guys who are actually trying to compete with non Tekin cars. they will have to change sooner or later
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:47 AM   #12410
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so you liked it then ? hahaha i think TEKIN is going to have to up their manufacturing for a while to cope with the guys who are actually trying to compete with non Tekin cars. they will have to change sooner or later
I sense a TEKIN lock in, no one is allowed to leave HQ until the next shipment of equipment is ready to get out the door...
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:25 AM   #12411
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So what are you saying. To take some timing out of the motor with one of the inserts?
Yes, try the -10 insert to start
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i thought it was 15 but that must be the x11 motor

either the motor or timing boost,try 10 and turbo 10 and watch temps
Correct, it's the X11. the X12 has loads if timing built in already... really doesn't like a lot of additional timing applied to it.
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Correct, it's the X11. the X12 has loads if timing built in already... really doesn't like a lot of additional timing applied to it.
guess thats the only way to make it fast
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:45 AM   #12414
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Anyone have a starting point for x12 13.5 for tc. I read in the manual for the motor that it doesnt like extreme advance timing. I bought one to try and I am worried it may not be a good fit. Suggestions?
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I'd be careful running the X12 without changing the insert first. I span it up and it was overtimed with the 0 insert on 30 boost (40 on the motor by default apparently) so with the above setup, you've got 75 degrees at the top of the boost range, then another 10 at full throttle (85 in total)

Try it by all means, but temp it after a minute or two. Personally I think it's too much timing.
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So what are you saying. To take some timing out of the motor with one of the inserts?

I have run the Nosram version of the 10.5 x12 a few times now, with the standard timing insert and circa 40 on the timing.
It has never gone above 50degC and outside on a medium sized track was a missile that still never really got warm.

Remember, the x12's have a lot of torque so the gearing can be a bit taller than some other motors.

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Old 02-19-2010, 06:50 AM   #12415
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I have run the Nosram version of the 10.5 x12 a few times now, with the standard timing insert and circa 40 on the timing.
It has never gone above 50degC and outside on a medium sized track was a missile that still never really got warm.

Remember, the x12's have a lot of torque so the gearing can be a bit taller than some other motors.

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Just for clarity for all reading, is that with a tc too Skiddins, or 1/12th?

Because, as we know, the powerband will differ...
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Old 02-19-2010, 07:48 AM   #12416
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Old 02-19-2010, 09:17 AM   #12417
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Not sure if you're running on or off road. Remember high end servos can have very high stall currents. I use JR servos as well but have never had any problems. I think your problem is a cumulated drain which surpasses the available power. Remember some radios drain more than others too (for example some Spektrum receivers pull higher currents than expected).
Check if the esc wires are capable of delivering in excess of 6A to the radio so the servo is properly powered and assess if you should change them. I changed mine to a wire size equal to that of the servo I use (which is clearly heavier gauge than the little wires the Tekin comes with).

A powerful capacitor might just get you over the drain spikes but I don't regard it as a permanent solution if this is your problem.
i'm actually still running FM in an onroad car 13.5.. my problems occur even when held in the air without load... guess i'll have to use the old servo for this weekend..
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Solder posts are the only heatsink needed - don't cut them down or insulate them (with heatshrink). It's not insane, it's just good design.
My Mamba Max runs pretty hot with my 7700kv and 9000kv. If running an equivalent motor on the RS, would it run nearly as hot?

Basically, I need to keep a close eye on my Castle setup, would i need to keep as close an eye on this one?

And thank you for the info.
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Old 02-19-2010, 11:37 AM   #12420
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Just for clarity for all reading, is that with a tc too Skiddins, or 1/12th?

Because, as we know, the powerband will differ...
Yep, that was TC.

When I ran in the GT10 (before v203) I could never get the motor temp above 45degC no matter gearing I tried, from 45mm/r to 85mm/r

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