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Old 02-15-2010, 09:07 PM   #12286
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I was using a new line of servo called Align 620 digital ultra speed....the servo works fine...the reciever works fine...the Tekin esc works great now...but put them all together an u have cogging...i changed it out for a hitec high torque..car works fine now!!! if u have cogging check out the servo..it might work just fine but it sends a signal to the motor an reciever that makes the problem....at lease was my problem..
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:07 PM   #12287
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I've been using a JR9000s and a JR9100s in two different TCs with no cogging issues (both RS Pros).
Same here, no probs, no cap with JR servos (same as Joe). Used both Spektrum and KO receivers, neither gave me any problem.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:30 PM   #12288
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I'm also using a digital JR servo with no problems (Airtronics DSSS receiver).
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:55 PM   #12289
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I actually started out at 30 degrees timing on the esc with the understanding that the Novak mechanical timing was set at 30 from the factory. It still cogged no matter how far apart I spread the timing across the rpm range. I tried to follow logic also by reducing the mechanical timing and this was the main indicator that it made it worse. FYI, I have a redline motor on the way.
let us know how you get on with the redline, you should see the cogging go away instantly with the right setup.

A safe combination of timing is 0deg endbell, 30 on the boost on v189, ive used it many times indoors on a small track and it's kept up with anyone, on a hot lap its 2/10ths quicker than anything else...
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Old 02-16-2010, 02:49 AM   #12290
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Dual Drive isn't an option as I need to run it sensored only to get the benefit of v203.

I don't use brakes at low speed as the car setup gets me round the corners without coming to a standstill. I only need brakes from high speed to bring me to cornering speed, which is usually a very quick stab of the brakes when using the SPX.
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Could you not use just a little more drag brake, as you and I drive very simular and hard ly use brakes any ways, as our cars flow round corners pretty well, just a suggestion, but worth a try imo
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:31 AM   #12291
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What is the effect on the R1 ESC with the v203 software, how many of the features work?

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What is the effect on the R1 ESC with the v203 software, how many of the features work?

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Here are all the features explained from a cut and paste off the main page.

My understanding, (in short), is that the ESC/Motor is tuned with more accuracy with v203 over previous software ,which, when set correctly with the correct gear ratio, is allowing the turbo to spool in quicker and at a user/hotwire set/configured rpm parameter of engaging and disengaging = faster lap times.

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Motor Timing: Launch
Motor timing is an absolute. It’s effective throughout the entire range of the cars speed. This is the adjustment that should be made for the first few feet of car travel.

Timing Boost: Acceleration
The ideal start/end rpm for boost will depend on the platform/chassis being used along with track size and motor wind. The size of the range will also affect how the car pulls. A narrow rpm range will effectively produce a faster rate of boost vs. a wide range will have a slower rate of boost:
1000rpm start / 6000 end with 50 timing boost will provide 10 degrees of boost per 1000 rpm vs. 1000rpm start / 11000 end with 50 timing boost will provide 5 degrees of boost per 1000 rpm.
Spec Motors:
So far pan cars are using between 1,000 and 7,000 on most tracks. This is due to not having a gearbox and being direct drive.
TC’s are showing a useable range of 2,000 to 13,000 on most tracks. This is due to having a reduction gear box.
Turbo Timing: Top speed
Turbo Delay: This is the time that must expire at wide open throttle to engage turbo. This is NOT dependant on RPM’s in any way. Ideally this should be NO lower than .2 and in all likelyhood will be set at .4 or more. Tracks that have straights less than 80ft will likely NOT need turbo.
Turbo Ramp Rate: This is the literal ramp rate of whatever your turbo timing is set.
A turbo setting of 20 will give you the following reaction:
1.0 Ramp rate = 20 degrees in 1 second applied
2.0 Ramp rate = 20 degrees in .5 seconds applied
3.0 Ramp rate = 20 degrees in .30 seconds applied
So if you run timing it will just change the total applied, not the speed at which it’s applied.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:47 AM   #12293
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Here are all the features explained from a cut and paste off the main page.

My understanding, (in short), is that the ESC/Motor is tuned with more accuracy with v203 over previous software ,which, when set correctly with the correct gear ratio, is allowing the turbo to spool in quicker and at a user/hotwire set/configured rpm parameter of engaging and disengaging = faster lap times.

HotWire Vegas tips from team manager, Randy Pike
Motor Timing: Launch
Motor timing is an absolute. Itís effective throughout the entire range of the cars speed. This is the adjustment that should be made for the first few feet of car travel.

Timing Boost: Acceleration
The ideal start/end rpm for boost will depend on the platform/chassis being used along with track size and motor wind. The size of the range will also affect how the car pulls. A narrow rpm range will effectively produce a faster rate of boost vs. a wide range will have a slower rate of boost:
1000rpm start / 6000 end with 50 timing boost will provide 10 degrees of boost per 1000 rpm vs. 1000rpm start / 11000 end with 50 timing boost will provide 5 degrees of boost per 1000 rpm.
Spec Motors:
So far pan cars are using between 1,000 and 7,000 on most tracks. This is due to not having a gearbox and being direct drive.
TCís are showing a useable range of 2,000 to 13,000 on most tracks. This is due to having a reduction gear box.
Turbo Timing: Top speed
Turbo Delay: This is the time that must expire at wide open throttle to engage turbo. This is NOT dependant on RPMís in any way. Ideally this should be NO lower than .2 and in all likelyhood will be set at .4 or more. Tracks that have straights less than 80ft will likely NOT need turbo.
Turbo Ramp Rate: This is the literal ramp rate of whatever your turbo timing is set.
A turbo setting of 20 will give you the following reaction:
1.0 Ramp rate = 20 degrees in 1 second applied
2.0 Ramp rate = 20 degrees in .5 seconds applied
3.0 Ramp rate = 20 degrees in .30 seconds applied
So if you run timing it will just change the total applied, not the speed at which itís applied.
But does the older R1 ESC end up with the same features?

What's the difference between the R1 and the RS?
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:49 AM   #12294
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But does the older R1 ESC end up with the same features?

What's the difference between the R1 and the RS?
I'll let someone who knows or has an R1 to tell you that, as in short, I only have an RS Pro and don't know (at least it rhymes lol).
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:50 AM   #12295
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The one major difference is that the R1 is sensorless and the RS is sensored, so you won't have the turbo or timing boost from the RS but the R1 will have timing advance other than that all other features should be the same.
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Old 02-16-2010, 08:29 AM   #12296
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The R1 will gain none of the new features released in 203. The R1 is a sensorless only esc and will not have timing boost nor turbo.
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wanted to ask a few 1s WGT 13.5 questions. what is a good starting roll out for an 80x36 track? ive got the RS figured out with my TC, but my first run with a pan car will be thursday night.

from what ive read...im going to start with 35-40 timing, no turbo, rpm range 2000-7000. look good to start?

im just stumped on the rollout stuff and where i need to be.

thanks in advance.
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help!!!!! randy or anyone,up until now i have been running v194,but lately iv'e been getting smoked by the guys with there new mamba max pro's in 13.5 tc/i need a good esp setup for the new software.big speedworld sized track,i've been running the same setting since the 09 reedy race,(thank you randy for helping me get up to speed there)i was fast until everyone upgraded. i am also building a 12scale 13.5 1cell lipo car for the same track i can find a few setup sheets on tekins site for carpet 13.5 but nothing for assfault,any pointers would be helpful,thanks guys!!!!
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wanted to ask a few 1s WGT 13.5 questions. what is a good starting roll out for an 80x36 track? ive got the RS figured out with my TC, but my first run with a pan car will be thursday night.

from what ive read...im going to start with 35-40 timing, no turbo, rpm range 2000-7000. look good to start?

im just stumped on the rollout stuff and where i need to be.

thanks in advance.
What 13.5 motor? I am assuming that you want to run v203.
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