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Old 01-22-2010, 09:29 AM
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From what I have been reading on this thread, it seems like we need to retard the timing some on the motors to prevent smoking them with this v203 Tekin software. I have smoked two 17.5 motors within 6 days since jumping from v200 to v203. I will be experimenting with retarding motor timing this weekend to see if the speed and performance stays constant but lowers the motor temps in the process.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:40 AM
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What motors?
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Originally Posted by wingracer
What motors?
One was a Checkpoint 17.5 and the second one was a Trinity Pulse 17.5. I am currently running the Novak Ballistic 17.5 and with a better understanding of v203, I am keeping my engine temps between 110 to 130 degrees (down from 140 to 160 degrees).
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:01 AM
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Pulses burn up easy anyway but it probably would have liked neg timing. I know nothing about Novak motors but might be worth a try. Nemesis sounds like it has to have neg timing to run right. Tekins and Duos seem the best to me.
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How are you guys smoking your motors? What's your FDR?
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:12 AM
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The new software fixed that for me. Now runs fine on a Dell laptop with the 64 bit windows 7.
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Strange Peter, that's exactly what I've done with my netbook with exactly the same results! (Plus install a proper copy of MS Office.) Now I know you are good enough with computers I'll get you to set up our race timing laptop to dual boot Vista and XP with no XP drivers next time we need to do it so I don't have to do it again myself!

I've never had a problem with any aspect of HotWire on any PC unless it was my own fault, though I admit I've not tried 64 bit.

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Old 01-22-2010, 10:56 AM
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windows 7 ultimate works for me without any problems
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Originally Posted by TommyBlazin
rollout for 13.5 1c 2,500-10,500 sound alright? small track
Yes? No?
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyBlazin
Yes? No?

what your describing isnt rollout, it's timing advance start and end rpms.. if you want rollout, what class 12th sclale or wgt. if timing rpm's i'm at around 3500-7500 in my wgt..
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Originally Posted by bukil
How are you guys smoking your motors? What's your FDR?
At the carpet track that I run on, we had been running FDRs in the low fours. However, when I lost my Checkpoint motor, my FDR was between 4.7 and 5.5. My Pulse motor was at 4.71 FDR. It was apparent that I hit that initial glitch in v203 where the start/end rpm changed after setting (this was discussed a few pages back). When I rechecked my setting, the rpm range was not what I initially had set (closed the gap considerably between start and end rpm). If that rpm range is too close/short, it will build up heat very quickly and then poof, no motor. Now, I triple check it and have not had an issue since my Pulse incident.
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tallyrc
what your describing isnt rollout, it's timing advance start and end rpms.. if you want rollout, what class 12th sclale or wgt. if timing rpm's i'm at around 3500-7500 in my wgt..
that was a mistake,i have rollout down,just the start/ finish rpm for 13.5 1/12..203 software...just not sure of how high i go,and low i could start, the rest ill get to..thanks
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Jlock - looking forward to what the other guys on here say, but if you are running on the carpet track I think you are an FDR of 4.7 seems really low...I agree, the narrow rpm range will quickly build heat, but if over geared it will build even faster as its struggling to get on top of the gear. For 17.5 I won't go below about 5.4ish... for what its worth...
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Originally Posted by TommyBlazin
that was a mistake,i have rollout down,just the start/ finish rpm for 13.5 1/12..203 software...just not sure of how high i go,and low i could start, the rest ill get to..thanks
i don't run 12th but i pit next to some fast folks that do and they are starting around 2500 and ending around 6500-7000.. 45-50 timing advance very low turbo.. with that setting i'd work the start rpms up before i worked the end rpms down.. good luck.. can't remember his rollout..
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Originally Posted by JLock
At the carpet track that I run on, we had been running FDRs in the low fours. However, when I lost my Checkpoint motor, my FDR was between 4.7 and 5.5. My Pulse motor was at 4.71 FDR. It was apparent that I hit that initial glitch in v203 where the start/end rpm changed after setting (this was discussed a few pages back). When I rechecked my setting, the rpm range was not what I initially had set (closed the gap considerably between start and end rpm). If that rpm range is too close/short, it will build up heat very quickly and then poof, no motor. Now, I triple check it and have not had an issue since my Pulse incident.
I read somewhere that with v203, you "would" gear your 17.5 like your 13.5 with v200 initially. Then tweak it from there depending on your track.

My 17.5 is geared at 6.2, and it's plenty fast.
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Originally Posted by markg
Jlock - looking forward to what the other guys on here say, but if you are running on the carpet track I think you are an FDR of 4.7 seems really low...I agree, the narrow rpm range will quickly build heat, but if over geared it will build even faster as its struggling to get on top of the gear. For 17.5 I won't go below about 5.4ish... for what its worth...
With v200, my FDR of 4.5 to 4.8 was fine and motor temps were around 125 to 145 degrees. Our carpet track is bigger than what some of you are running (ours is about 75ft wide to apprx 90ft/100ft long). Much of my issue was due to the glitch that narrowed the rpm range that I did not know had happened. Now that I know that and am educating myself on the v203 software, this should not be an issue again.
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