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Old 01-19-2010, 05:47 AM   #10861
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Than they push it to the edge and it's there own fold.
Yeah that is kind of the point in winning. They knew what they were doing and weren't upset about it melting down. I'm just pointing out that despite all these new timing things the fast guys are still pushing the limits on temp.
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:59 AM   #10862
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Yeah that is kind of the point in winning. They knew what they were doing and weren't upset about it melting down. I'm just pointing out that despite all these new timing things the fast guys are still pushing the limits on temp.
Ye I now more of them. Some of them don't go faster because they only thing that when you set your Boost and Turbo full open that they will go faster.
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:18 AM   #10863
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How can I get my infield to stop being so sparadic..my rpm starts at 15xx and the end is 7000...what can i do...what can i change...
you start rpm is way to low. my 17.5 is at 3500 and my 13.5 is at 4000-4500. the end is ok for a stock motor, but the end for 13.5 is way too low. if this is 13.5 this would be like my setup on the tekin site foe 17.5 it has all the rip in the world out of a corner. but it 13.5 i am not sure many of us could keep hold of a car with that setup.

1. lower your throttle profile.
2. increase start rpm
3. if 13.5 increase end rpm.

the wider you have the rpm range the smoother the power comes on. 17.5 is probably the only class you want the car to shoot out of corners that hard.
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Old 01-19-2010, 06:18 AM   #10864
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Clint the setup I came down with was pretty good. Although my luck wasn't so lucky in the main as I backed off so I didn't get into the leader and was wadded up myself putting me almost a lap down. After that I had a slight issue that costed me some time.
Will you guys be there this Sunday or are you only going to A-main on Saturday?

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Than they push it to the edge and it's there own fold.

Saturday I tried an other setup but the motor became above the 180F.
I changed gearing and my gearing. My motor temps went down but not my lap times. Whit the setup that I have now I'm a bit faster in the infield and a bit higher top speed.
I lowered the top speed so I could go true the corner full speed like the others. With the higher top speed I had to brake and lost all the advantage.
I played with the start RPM settings to get a better acceleration and that worked. My car accelerates now very smooth. It's also good to drive.
I had a faster setup but it was in the infield to fast and top speed to high.
I drive 10,5 2 cell lipo and the track is small and technical. So to much power will make it harder to drive.
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Old 01-19-2010, 07:32 AM   #10865
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One great hing about this ESC and software updates is that it keeps people learning and something is constantly new which makes anything more fun. After reading this thread daily I have just a very basic general summary:

this is comapring 13.5 and 17.5 motors in TC:

13.5 motors should have a higher FDR (i.e. 7.0), a higher start RPM, and a wider RPM range

17.5 should have a lower FDR (5.5-6.0), a lower start RPM, and a narrower RPM range

Are these basic statements correct? Thoughts please.
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Old 01-19-2010, 07:59 AM   #10866
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Unfortunately the low motor temps weren't the case with the fast guys at the NEGS race this weekend in TC. Two motor meltdowns by two of the faster guys in the foam class (including the guy that TQed and won).
Any idea if they were using fans on their motors?

I've found even a cheap 25mm fan wired into the ESC will drop the temps by 30F. I imagine a high RPM fan to the battery could really move some air.
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:21 AM   #10867
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Any idea if they were using fans on their motors?

I've found even a cheap 25mm fan wired into the ESC will drop the temps by 30F. I imagine a high RPM fan to the battery could really move some air.
Actually they were not running fans. I have found the same thing. Just a fan can keep the temps down 25-30 degrees. I had been hooking mine up direct to the battery but I got a new Muchmore Ultra high RPM fan that I just plug in the receiver and it seems to do the job just fine. Definitely not as cool as direct but I think some races (like ROAR) don't allow it direct to the battery.

Not sure how much the fans would have helped these guys though. The guy that TQed and won his motor was 230* when it melted down.

I've been running the Ballistic motor and it really falls off at 155 degrees. The fan is a necessity with that motor.
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Yeah that is kind of the point in winning. They knew what they were doing and weren't upset about it melting down. I'm just pointing out that despite all these new timing things the fast guys are still pushing the limits on temp.
And they always will, regardless of the technology being used...
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:22 AM   #10869
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can anybody say who the distributor for Tekin in Europe is?
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:25 AM   #10870
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can anybody say who the distributor for Tekin in Europe is?
In the Netherlands www.hanglooseracingproducts.nl is selling them and in the UK it's much more as I'm right.
More I don't now.
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I've been running the Ballistic motor and it really falls off at 155 degrees. The fan is a necessity with that motor.
My Ballistic blew up in the 4th round at 165-170 deg.
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Not to "Over Think" this issue, but, to avoid the too high voltage issue that the LiPo reciever packs present, I'm using a Losi 150 mA Nimh pack (Micro-T) w/plug connecter changed, charges in 15 min, wieghs 17 gr,6.5V w/full charge, no regulater required.
Where you finding that 5cell losi pack?
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My Ballistic blew up in the 4th round at 165-170 deg.
I'd believe it. They just seem to come to a crawl at 155*s for me. I was talking to Brandon Shells about it and he said he found the same thing. I have had mine up to 172 degrees when my fan stopped working. It seems to still work fine but I was concerned. Kind of makes me want to go back to a Duo because those seem to be fine until a little over 200*.
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Where you finding that 5cell losi pack?
It's actually a 4 cell pack, but does the job.
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It's actually a 4 cell pack, but does the job.
4c nimh puting out over 6v?
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