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Old 01-07-2010, 11:01 AM   #10216
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This is true! I'm the only one at the track with the light!

I'm hearing the BD is still faster from folks with the BD. Not sure if that is their pride or actual results talking. Obviously the Tekin has a bigger learning curve vs the BD so time will tell.
All of the esc manufacturers are going to be scrambling to find more speed. One advantage that Tekin has is the size of group that is running it vs. the small amount of people using the AE. No one at our track has an AE but we do have a KO team driver testing new stuff for them. The KO is fast but I was able to pull him on the straight last weekend. Lap times were the same which speaks well for the Tekin as he is a better driver than I am. I have no doubt that he would kick my butt if he were running a Tekin.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:05 AM   #10217
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I think he means Team Associated with LRP SXX Stock Spec.
ah ok

Anyway...the manual still doesn't impres me
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:06 AM   #10218
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great idea Mark. Wonder if they can make that happen. would make the RS a swiss army ESC. I'll put in my vote for it.

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The RS already has the capability to read the timing sensorless, by sampling the back EMF on the undriven phase wire. It also has the capability to read the sensor reports. Unless there's some reason the RS can't do both things at once, a "calibrate motor timing mode" amounts to comparing the two and displaying the result through the LEDs (in binary or BCD) instead of displaying the throttle position and internal temperature as the RS does now.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:16 AM   #10219
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I ran against a BD last with my Tekin in 13.5 1s w/ 1/12th scale. Once I find the right combo. I really think Tekin will be faster. We were running the same lap times and we fell off at about the same time. Can't wait to get it back to the track for more testing and tuning.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:30 AM   #10220
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I ran against a BD last with my Tekin in 13.5 1s w/ 1/12th scale. Once I find the right combo. I really think Tekin will be faster. We were running the same lap times and we fell off at about the same time. Can't wait to get it back to the track for more testing and tuning.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:52 AM   #10221
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Ran against 2 AE Team drivers tuesday and they had some new speedos. There new stuff is fast, just like Tekin.

So you are saying that AE has a new version of the black diamond? Is this 100% confirmed? How do you know that it is new?
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I think that it is the production version. The ones that you see on the pictures were prototypes for what I now.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:18 PM   #10224
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So you are saying that AE has a new version of the black diamond? Is this 100% confirmed? How do you know that it is new?
I believe he is referring to AE=LRP (the new SXX).
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:23 PM   #10225
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I believe he is referring to AE=LRP (the new SXX).
When he responded he quoted the person asking about the AE BD so I'm not sure that is the case. Nonetheless I don't think he meant there was a new BD. Or he was just confused.
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When he responded he quoted the person asking about the AE BD so I'm not sure that is the case. Nonetheless I don't think he meant there was a new BD. Or he was just confused.
Gotcha, I missed that part. I'm with you, I can't imagine there's a new BD, they couldn't even get the first one fully distributed.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:28 PM   #10227
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Ok guys im racing WGT Gen X 10 on a 64ft track. I have downloaded the new 203 software. My rollout is 65.

Turbo Delay .05
Turbo off
Turbo Timing 15 ? kind of unsure about this
Drag Brake 43

I dont know where to set my starting RPM and end RPM (End RPM is set at4569)

Can I get some help here I lost.

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Scored my 1st TQ and win in the A- with the new v203 software last weekend. The car has been very smooth with the new software, and motor temps are excellent. I ran very close to my usual set-up, 1 tooth less, and kept sneaking up on the timing run after run.

I run a Tekin Redline 17.5 & RS esc in a Direct Drive JRC EDM Dirt Oval car on high bite clay and the car has just been wicked fast. Tekin really did their home work on this one in giving us such a flexible tool and really puts out the speed. There is more left in it I am sure. The track was a little loose, but I kept it out in front. Anyone interested in the rollout and my settings can PM me. I will be posting one on the Tekin site for v203 as soon as I science the rest of the speed out of it.

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Ok guys im racing WGT Gen X 10 on a 64ft track. I have downloaded the new 203 software. My rollout is 65.

Turbo Delay .05
Turbo off
Turbo Timing 15 ? kind of unsure about this
Drag Brake 43

I dont know where to set my starting RPM and end RPM (End RPM is set at4569)

Can I get some help here I lost.

Thanks
From your roll out I assume you run on 13,5T and 1S LiPo. If yo, look at this as a starting point:
http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire/ESC...-12-Vegas2.pdf
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:49 PM   #10230
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Yeah, if the track was much shorter, I'd probably disable the turbo and increase the final RPM so the timing was applied over a longer range of RPM to let it come up to speed in a more linear fashion. I find that it almost kicks in too late if I don't hit full throttle until I'm squared up on the straight, so I've been trying to take a line through the round part before entering the straight where I can get into the throttle 100% before the car squares up, and that's when it really shines. But it really requires some finesse, and might be beyond my current skill level to do it predictably enough to be worth it.
The last few pages have shown that many of us are coming to the same conclusions.

I run on a short track (1s 1/12 17.5 Redline) 50x25 with a sweeper entering the full length straight (Very slow chicane prior to the sweeper, motor is probably under 1000rpm). There is "room" to be on WOT for around 60' before getting off the throttle for a 180* turn. With Timing Boost @50 (1425 start & 6000 end) I had Turbo set on ramp 3 and 0.7 delay initially. I couldn't feel the Turbo kick in and got a temp of just under 160* ( I was bogging down the motor with the Turbo). I moved the delay out to 0.8 and could obviously feel/hear/see the Turbo "hit" and the temp went down to 132*. Problem is, the Turbo was "hitting" just as I was getting off the throttle for the 180* corner and it ended up pushing me out and off my desired line more than it helped me in any way. I had to feather the throttle to "reset" my delay, in order to keep my line tight.

My thought is that with Timing Boost available up to 60, there is no way a 1s 17.5 car can "use" 50* + of timing advance in less than 65' (obviously dependent on gearing and track layout). When you run on a larger layout that may be helpful information. A delay of 0.8 will "hit" the Turbo at around 60' with a Timing Boost of 50 and a Rollout of 76.00mm

On my small track, I will be running NO Turbo and it works great. I'm only able to use a little more (5*) total timing than with v200 but I have better Low and Midrange throttle response, which helps with passing and general driveability! My fast lap with v200 was 6.925sec and with v203 was 6.889.

The though thing to admit is that "extra power" does you no good if you pile into to boards - all is lost. The truth about most of us club drivers is that on a big layout, we can probably use Turbo and have a larger grin between accidents. On a small layout, there is not a huge difference from a well tuned v200 car, just a little more responsiveness. That alone is a good thing for those rare occassions when we get a solid "clean" run.

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