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Old 01-05-2010, 02:56 PM   #10081
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Well 13.5 should benefit the same way as 17.5 did with all other things being equal.

I can see it now, 27 turn brushless motors.
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:58 PM   #10082
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novak is working on a 25 turn or its out one of the two
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:59 PM   #10083
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I thought that the 13,5 would be to slow compared to the 10,5 but now I'm happy that it's a 13,5T.
This software is great. I'm happy that you can let it run slower by just lowering the Boost and if you want, you can still go back to the V200 or older.
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:02 PM   #10084
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the reason i say too fast is because if you look at laps you take a class like 17.5 and brought them up to 13.5 times there needs to be a gap bettween the two.

there is a gap now that 13.5 runs like a 10.5
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there is only a gap is if one is using a tekin and the other is isnt. a 13.5 with a lrp agaist a 17.5 with a tekin campare the times almost identical.
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:08 PM   #10086
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I run tc with a 17.5 redline with the new 203 update and yes it's quick but it is not too fast that it should be banned it just gives racers an abillity to tune their speedo to the motor better and to those race organizers that want to ban it can go and get stuufed just because tekin and a couple of other manufactures pulled their finger out and moved with technology instead of sitting on their fat ass and whinge when someone else puts in the hard work and beats them with in the rules
imagine what the world would be like if technology didn't move forward???

Pretty boring huh

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Old 01-05-2010, 03:12 PM   #10087
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im not saying its not good stuff but, we need to find a way to regulate all the speed. hopefully roar will figure out a way to do this. my question is how much more can the motors take before things start to go wrong.
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:25 PM   #10088
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Ok thanks,
I was starting with only the Boost but I missed a lot of top speed. I think that I was geared to light when I see all the other setups.

I went back to almost the same gearing as with the V200.
Start RPM around the 4000 end RPM around the 17000.
The first few meters were also to slow I think because I was geared to light.
I think the motor doesn't make that much RPM's ad the start to compensate the light gearing.
Mikky,
I basically kept my v200 gearing, but changed my esc settings: dropped turbo timing and increased boost timing and turbo delay. The only "slowness" I got was due to burn outs at take off. So go slow on your throttle or adjust the EXP.

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there is a gap now that 13.5 runs like a 10.5
....and a 10.5T runs like a 4.5T.....
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they are called spec classes, start specing the esc.. make them one-design classes..
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:28 PM   #10091
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You know what I find funny...what's gonna happen to the Black Diamond ESC? I have never seen one run but it couldn't be any faster than the v203. Who honestly would still buy one...a non updatability $400 ESC?
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:43 PM   #10092
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Mikky,
I basically kept my v200 gearing, but changed my esc settings: dropped turbo timing and increased boost timing and turbo delay. The only "slowness" I got was due to burn outs at take off. So go slow on your throttle or adjust the EXP.

Motor: Tekin 10.5T
Motor timing 0
Timing boost 50
Turbo boost 10
Turbo delay 0.5
End rpm 15000
Start rpm 2992
Turbo ramp 2
FDR 6.47
Thanks. I have a Tekin 10,5 but we must use the LRP X11 10,5T at the race.
I don't have set the Turbo jet because the time that I used it with the V203 it was like a monster.
I was thinking the same.A very high top RPM and a low start RPM.

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....and a 10.5T runs like a 4.5T.....
yes I field the same with the Turbo on max.


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You know what I find funny...what's gonna happen to the Black Diamond ESC? I have never seen one run but it couldn't be any faster than the v203. Who honestly would still buy one...a non updatability $400 ESC?
Marcel told me that it was faster in the infield but not at the top speed.
But I think that the infield of the Tekin will be as fast as the advance with the right setup. we are both seeking for power by the start.
I think that I have found it now with this setup.
As the infield is about the same as the advance, than is the Tekin faster because of the Turbo power ad the straight.

The Advance can be updated.
You can't do it your self but it can be don.
I think it will be like GM. Buy a speedo wit old software send it to GM and wait till you get it back. You must pay for shipping and each time there is something new you pay for it.
And there is already coming a new GM because the GM Genius 120 was to big

Tekin is by far the smallest speedo with the most power ad the moment.
Thanks Tekin great work and great service
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:49 PM   #10093
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The AE speedo is still not for sale every were because it's coming from a small company.

They tested by the way the LRP SXX stock spec and I heard that the Advance was faster than the SXX. As the Tekin is in the infield as fast as what I hear and I hope will feel my self than will the LR no match for the Tekin.
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At my local indoor track fast lap in 17.5 is 10.7xx and 13.5 is 10.4xx. Before the new software and the same guys 17.5 was 10.8xx and 13.5 was 10.5xx. Are we really going that much faster? Or are we being fooled because of the straight away speed? This was done by two national winning drivers. I would bet that if this was on a decent sized outdoor track the gap would be larger. I for one am all for this new software but can see someone getting into the hobby having a hard time dealing with it and getting discouraged. Maybe one day the new "stock" class will be 21.5.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:04 PM   #10095
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And there is already coming a new GM because the GM Genius 120 was to big
Just to correct this statement - new GM is using same case as older one. Just have separated caps. Of course it has completely new internals.

I'm really looking forward to test new software before next round of ETS. I didn't have much luck with setting up Tekin and version 200.
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