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Old 01-04-2010, 08:51 PM   #9991
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Why on earth is your track allowing the use of the new software in VTA? This is a spec class with a limited gear "window" to try to keep the cars all about the same speed. Kind of defeats the purpose of the class, don't 'ya think?
maybe they are letting non-RS users run 17.5 because that's how fast the RS can make a 21.5 into
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here is what i have found to keep up or out power the ae and mamba speedo's in 13.5 rubber tc..

drag 0ff
reverse off
brakes strength 100
neutral 16
motor bl-fw
throttle 5
voltage 2
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timing 45
turbo 10
turbo delay .2
start rpm 1508
end rpm 7804
turbo ramp 1.0
sensored mode
track is 80x48 motor temp is 135 deg. after 6 min. of running
gearing was at a 9.02 fdr in a corally phi 09
battery was 5000 40c battery
motor was a duo with timing in middle hole.
send a pm if you need other questions answered... jeremy
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Wow this thread is moving fast lol Just saw a post about old files. I thought I deleted all of them. I'll try that uninstaller program out..
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guys, not trying to be an ass. I know that this thread is moving real fast, but you need to look back through the thread for answers. if everyone just keeps asking question when the answer is there, this thread will soon become useless.

1. timing boost starts at "start rpm" and ends at "end RPM"
2. turbo boost starts after you hit full throttle for the "delay" length of time
3. ramp only affects turbo.
4. yes timing boost and turbo boost can overlap.
5. yes you can set delay to 0.


all confirmed by Randy and/or Jim in the last 30 or so pages
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:01 PM   #9996
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That's nice, but you left out a lot of info, start/end RPM, Turbo delay, Turbo ramp?

Not quite a complete profile without that info.
i know i just edited my post. i hit post early for some dumb reason... jeremy
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That's nice, but you left out a lot of info, start/end RPM, Turbo delay, Turbo ramp?

Not quite a complete profile without that info.
that's a secret. lol
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here is what i have found to keep up or out power the ae and mamba speedo's in 13.5 rubber tc..

drag 0ff
reverse off
brakes strength 100
neutral 16
motor bl-fw
throttle 5
voltage 2
push 0ff
timing 45
turbo 10
turbo delay .2
start rpm 1508
end rpm 7804
turbo ramp 1.0
sensored mode
track is 80x48 motor temp is 135 deg. after 6 min. of running
gearing was at a 9.02 fdr in a corally phi 09
battery was 5000 40c battery
motor was a duo with timing in middle hole.
send a pm if you need other questions answered... jeremy
wow 9.0 fdr?
need like a 105/24 to get that.
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wow 9.0 fdr?
need like a 105/24 to get that.
104/23 is what i was running... jeremy
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guys, not trying to be an ass. I know that this thread is moving real fast, but you need to look back through the thread for answers. if everyone just keeps asking question when the answer is there, this thread will soon become useless.

1. timing boost starts at "start rpm" and ends at "end RPM"
2. turbo boost starts after you hit full throttle for the "delay" length of time
3. ramp only affects turbo.
4. yes timing boost and turbo boost can overlap.
5. yes you can set delay to 0.


all confirmed by Randy and/or Jim in the last 30 or so pages
...or maybe Tekin could publish clear instructions on their website so people don't have to use a forum to ask. Not to be an ass but I'm not going to try to dissect 30 or so pages to try to get an answer on how it works.

Tekin, what is the reason for keeping the turbo boost delay and not just having it start after the end RPM for timing boost? I assume overlapping of timing is not a good thing?
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104/23 is what i was running... jeremy
lol never thought I'd ever have to use those pinions again.
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...or maybe Tekin could publish clear instructions on their website so people don't have to use a forum to ask. Not to be an ass but I'm not going to try to dissect 30 or so pages to try to get an answer on how it works.
or at least sticky the info until Tekin does so.
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No I believe you are wrong. What Randy was explaining how quickly the boost will ramp up depending on what Ramp you set.

Let's do the math:

If you select a Ramp of "2", and you have 40 degrees of timing set for Boost, the ESC will add 4 degrees (of the 40 degrees you set) every tenth of a second.

.1 sec - 4 degrees
.2 sec - 8 degrees
.3 sec - 12 degrees
.4 sec - 16 degrees
etc...until you reach 40 degrees...

40 @ 4 degrees every.10 sec = 40 degrees of timing in 1 second.

Meaning you will have reached the 40 degrees of boost in 1 second. That is your ramp time.

Ramp Settings:
1 = 2 degrees every 1/10th second - Slowest Ramp
2 = 4 degrees every 1/10th second - Faster Ramp
3 = 6 degrees every 1/10th second - Fastest Ramp

NOW...the ramp starts at your "Start RPM" and you will reach your boost setting at the "End RPM".


whewwwww deep breathe...

Now apply that to Start and End RPM...

So the shorter distance between the Start and End RPM and Ramp will determined how quickly you will add timing.

If you have a Start of 5000 RPM and an end of 10000 RPM you you will add 40 degrees of timing from 5000 RPM to 10000 RPM in about 1 second (if your acceleration is consistent...like on a straightaway).

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No I believe you are wrong. What Randy was explaining how quickly the boost will ramp up depending on what Ramp you set.

Let's do the math:

If you select a Ramp of "2", and you have 40 degrees of timing set for Boost, the ESC will add 4 degrees (of the 40 degrees you set) every tenth of a second.

.1 sec - 4 degrees
.2 sec - 8 degrees
.3 sec - 12 degrees
.4 sec - 16 degrees
etc...until you reach 40 degrees...

40 @ 4 degrees every.10 sec = 40 degrees of timing in 1 second.

Meaning you will have reached the 40 degrees of boost in 1 second. That is your ramp time.

Ramp Settings:
1 = 2 degrees every 1/10th second - Slowest Ramp
2 = 4 degrees every 1/10th second - Faster Ramp
3 = 6 degrees every 1/10th second - Fastest Ramp

NOW...the ramp starts at your "Start RPM" and you will reach your boost setting at the "End RPM".


whewwwww deep breathe...

Now apply that to Start and End RPM...

So the shorter distance between the Start and End RPM and Ramp will determined how quickly you will add timing.

If you have a Start of 5000 RPM and an end of 10000 RPM you you will add 40 degrees of timing from 5000 RPM to 10000 RPM in about 1 second (if your acceleration is consistent...like on a straightaway).

Clear as mud?
Which boost are you referring to? Timing Boost or Turbo Boost? Randy confirmed above ramp is only for turbo boost and not timing boost. The numbers you are using suggest timing boost so I don't think this info is correct.
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