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Old 01-03-2010, 12:21 AM   #9766
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Throttle profile is literally like exponential in your radio, it has no relationship to timing.

Turbo ramp rate only affects turbo:

1.0 ramp rate is(up to) 20 degrees in 1 second meaning that if you had 20 degrees set, it takes a full second spent at full throttle to attain the 20 degrees.

2.0 ramp rate is(up to) 40 degrees in 1 second OR 20 degrees in half a second.

3.0 ramp rate is(up to) 60, etc.

Since we limit the turbo where we do you don't get that much timing but you get the picture.(I hope).
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:05 AM   #9767
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The rpm settings affect ONLY the timing boost, period. Setting these too low or too high can have adverse effects of course.

In general places to start:

TC 13.5 : 3,500/12,500
1/12 17.5: 1,000/7,000
Offroad 13.5: 3,500/20,000

These are my personal experiences. I of course would change these based off driver input and track settings/conditions.

This is why our team got this software first. I will be compiling the team setups and posting them on the website as soon as I can guys.
thx ill play around this and see what happends
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:45 AM   #9768
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:48 AM   #9769
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Hey Guys,

Anyone got a decent setup for the new vegas software for 17.5 TC.

I've read all the posts since it's release but no one has posted a setup for 17.5 TC.

FYI I'm running:
17.5 Tekin Brushless (Factory Timing)
Tekin RS Pro
IP 5000 40C lipo 2S
T2 009
For medium sized track with medium grip.

Can someone post their setup please?

Drag Brake:
Brake Strength:
Neutral Width:
Throttle Profile:
Timing Boost:
Turbo Boost:
Turbo Delay:
Mode:
End RPM:
Start RPM
Turbo Ramp:
FDR:

Help would be very much appreciated.

Cheers
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Old 01-03-2010, 03:07 AM   #9770
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Randy posted one yesterday which is about
10 pages back
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Old 01-03-2010, 03:14 AM   #9771
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Hey Senna,

I have looked 10 pages back and can;t seem to find any. The only one I found close to it is the 17.5 1S setup for the 1/12 pan cars. Is this the one your referring to?
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Old 01-03-2010, 03:15 AM   #9772
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Guys, it seems that there are a few boosters for 1s that aren't handling the load with this latest software update. So far nobody that is running a tx pack is having any issues, just the booster guys. So if you're having radio issues, glitches, slow servos or p/t issues swap to a tx pack and see if that fixes your issue.
I have been using the RC Dynamics voltage booster designed by Mark Jordan (a UK 12th scale racer) and I've had no problems at all. Fixed all the various problems I've had with other boosters, and gave me no problems after the software update.

I've just put a review of it up at www.carsrcracing.co.uk. Mark is working on it becoming more generally available.

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Old 01-03-2010, 03:40 AM   #9773
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From what I have trolled through so far, these seem to be the setups that have been posted.

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For what it's worth.

A very nice feeling and fast setup for 17.5 tc on a 100x36 track was:

Drag Brake: 22(lots of 180's)
Throttle profile: 4
Timing boost: 50
Turbo boost: 5
Turbo delay: .2
End RPM: 18k
Start RPM: 8k( or close to that after calc)
Turbo ramp: 2.0

FDR: 5.5

Jaco Blues on my T3

Car was rediculous and the temps were low. I run a speedpassion V3 motor, it is a 0-10degree motor, so put it in the middle. This is not going to be my final setup, but had a decent amount of time to test and tune over the past couple of days to try things out. Now if i can only keep the car from spinning the tires in the sweeper


I recieved tons of calls from folks and am gonna have them come here to just look it up, lol.

Enjoy!

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This is the starting point and change as required.

Start here
profile 5
boost 50
turbo 10
delay .1 adjust if more or less is needed on straight
ramp 3
end rpm 7000-6000 (7000 for longer tracks and 6000 for shorter)
start 2400-2500ish

make sure to temp 2 minutes in no matter what
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If anyone was looking for small track settings, I can't help you at this point. I was running a Novak SS 17.5, and the motor just wants to bite back at whatever timing I throw at it. I did break the track record with our new configuration, but the car still didn't seem quite as fast as it could of been.
Here's what I ended the day off at:
35 Drag Brake
75 Brake Strength
Profile 3
40 Timing Boost
Max Turbo
0.1 Boost Delay
Start RPM ~4800
End RPM ~14000
6.9 FDR

I do not think you need any turbo for that size track at all. My home track is only 65 feet long and turbo is just no play. It just adds unwanted heat to the motor. Your end rpm seems a little high also. I would not think your turbo would even kick in with that high of an end rpm.
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Well, after 2 days of testing, I settled on:

35 Drag Brake
75 Brake Strength
Throttle Profile 3
50 Boost
10 Turbo
0.1 Delay
3 Ramp
Start: ~5000
End: ~18000
5.88 FDR

Broke our track record again by about 3 tenths, and the car was super consistent. Small track 50x30.
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Not a bad day at the track today. I really wanted to play around with the settings but I honestly had to learn how to drive my car again. This software is ridiculously fast. Instead of working on different settings, I ended up updating other cars and trying to explain how the new software works. I did manage to TQ and drop my best time by 7 seconds. I still have a lot to learn and I'm still blowing corners. The torque is amazing for 17.5. ROAR can't make me run mod, but Tekin just did. Here's what I ran in 17.5 / rubber / carpet. Track is 96x40:

Duo2 timing: 0
Throttle: 3
Boost: 50
Turbo: 10
Delay: 0
Ramp: 2
Drag: 30
End RPM: 12000
Start: 6680
FDR: 5.76

Motor came off at 180 and ran hard all day. I'd like to smooth it out a little more, so I'll be playing with RPMs tomorrow. Great stuff Tekin.
That is what I have gleaned so far.

Later,

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Old 01-03-2010, 03:43 AM   #9774
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Default Set up for 1/12th pan car 1S lipo 10.5

Used the new software yesterday,After a bit of trial and error settled on the following. Car was awasomely quick and was the equal of most of the Nim cars.
Still not settled on the end RPM and range so may need a little tweaking. Also on one run had push set too 25.As it happened this was my fast run. But came too the conclusion why have push if you have Drag brake. Some one might want tooo comment on this one.

Track carpet 100ft X 40FT (30mt x 12mt)
Fast and flowing.
Motor redline 10.5 timing set too zero
car a speedmerchant rev5 l

drag 5
brake 100
rev off
neutral 5
bl-fw
throttle 4
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timing boost 45
turbo 10
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Hey Senna,

I have looked 10 pages back and can;t seem to find any. The only one I found close to it is the 17.5 1S setup for the 1/12 pan cars. Is this the one your referring to?
Sorry mate that was page 626

But your right they are for 1/12 hopefuly they will
post something simaler for tc
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Wayne,

I am pretty sure the ones I have listed are TC 17.5.

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reverse servo, turn off reverse so esc is set to only forwark/brake then send to esc and recalibrate your radio..... maybe
thanks bro fixed already my mistake but.....the power awesome,awesome,awesome thanks
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Hey Guys,

Anyone got a decent setup for the new vegas software for 17.5 TC.

I've read all the posts since it's release but no one has posted a setup for 17.5 TC.

FYI I'm running:
17.5 Tekin Brushless (Factory Timing)
Tekin RS Pro
IP 5000 40C lipo 2S
T2 009
For medium sized track with medium grip.

Can someone post their setup please?

Drag Brake:
Brake Strength:
Neutral Width:
Throttle Profile:
Timing Boost:
Turbo Boost:
Turbo Delay:
Mode:
End RPM:
Start RPM
Turbo Ramp:
FDR:

Help would be very much appreciated.

Cheers
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throttle 4
motor timing 5(redline 17.5)
timing boost 50
turbo 10 delay 3
start 2721 end rpm 10000 ramp 3
fdr 5.56 32 104 t2 007

this was for the main.i had limited time with it but with a few more runs and gearing it could be beter
this is the track and we ran it clockwise this time.the race is b main 13.5
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Hey guys
Just tried the new softwear on my tc5 with redline 17.5 and I got to say I feel like the black chic out of the movie "The Love Guru" when she says
Daaaammmmmmmmmmm


Hats off to Randy and the team at tekin you guys have out done your selfs.

Once again
Daaammmmmmm
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To all:

Just received notification that v.203 is now BANNED from our local track (at least for the oval guys anyway). Rumour has it that officials are looking into banning this S/W version elsewhere as well due to unfair advantage.

We are all putting lots of time and effort to get this S/W version to work properly, it would be a crying shame should it become fully banned across the nation.

Opinions please....
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Tekin has the right plan.....You don't have to worry about buying the ESC of the week. Buy the RS and you can be sure that it will always be competitive.....updatable Firmware....That's the ticket!!
...one manufacturer has given the market what it wants, and is cleaning up?

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would this be race legal in races that use efra rules?

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Has anyone found that dragbrake causes much extra heat in the motor when using the RS Pro.
I stopped using it on my old SPX as it seemed to cause lots of problems with motors.

I might try it tomorrow at the track but would like to know if I'm going to be adding more heat if I use it.

Thanks
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Guys, it seems that there are a few boosters for 1s that aren't handling the load with this latest software update. So far nobody that is running a tx pack is having any issues, just the booster guys. So if you're having radio issues, glitches, slow servos or p/t issues swap to a tx pack and see if that fixes your issue.
Agreed! Be careful with boosters that cost less than a Novak! Most boosters on the market are not up to the job of powering the speedo and a digital servo. We have one in the UK that ticks all the boxes, and is totally reliable. See this thread for details (http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/showthr...632#post400632) and this site for a review (http://www.carsrcracing.co.uk/). Stick to a receiver pack if in doubt. HTH
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