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Old 01-02-2010, 08:37 PM   #9736
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i'd be really really curious to see some realtime rpm data on my car (or others) as when i was playing on gearchart and calculating rpm/mph our cars are pretty easily getting upwards of 25000 rpms on most tracks.. why is all the boost recomended to come in so early? hopefully i'll get more time to tune and play before the next race, but i'm curious to see what setting the high end much higher will do and adding the turbo on at the very end of the rpm range.. anyone try this yet?
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:40 PM   #9737
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are you getting the setting you want and then apply,don't unhook the esc go back and see if it stays,mine was doing it they weren't saving i had to close the hotwire and reopen with it connected to the esc and set the rpm range and it stayed
I'm getting the settings I want, not disconnecting the Hotwire, closing and reopening after appling settings and the settings are not being saved
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It function (start/end rpm) use to (timing boost) or (turbo timing)?
This is what I understand (and I may be wrong). When you pull the throttle from stand still, you are only using motor timing. As soon as the motor reaches the "Start rpm" the speedo begins to add your preset timing boost until it reaches the "end rpm". At that time, (after the turbo delay) the turbo begins to advance timing at the "ramp" rate that you've selected. A wider rpm range will increase timing at a slower rate. A narrow rpm range will increase timing at a more rapid rate but at the expense of excess heat buildup.
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This is what I understand (and I may be wrong). When you pull the throttle from stand still, you are only using motor timing. As soon as the motor reaches the "Start rpm" the speedo begins to add your preset timing boost until it reaches the "end rpm". At that time, (after the turbo delay) the turbo begins to advance timing at the "ramp" rate that you've selected. A wider rpm range will increase timing at a slower rate. A narrow rpm range will increase timing at a more rapid rate but at the expense of excess heat buildup.
I thought that turbo was still based off of time at full throttle, and the start and end RPM's were just to determine how long it takes to get to your maximum timing, as to not add too much timing too soon.
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1/12 13.5 mid size track (fast cats)
I would like to know what other people are running for 12th scale 13.5 setups as well
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I thought that turbo was still based off of time at full throttle.
Like I said, I may be wrong. The delay is optional down to "0" now, so I doubt that the turbo is applied before the timing boost is allowed to kick in. If the timing boost is waiting for a preset RPM and the turbo comes in based on throttle position, it seems they would fight each other.
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Like I said, I may be wrong. The delay is optional down to "0" now, so I doubt that the turbo is applied before the timing boost is allowed to kick in. If the timing boost is waiting for a preset RPM and the turbo comes in based on throttle position, it seems they would fight each other.
Edited my post after you quoted it, it seems. Sorry.
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The rpm settings affect ONLY the timing boost, period. Setting these too low or too high can have adverse effects of course.

In general places to start:

TC 13.5 : 3,500/12,500
1/12 17.5: 1,000/7,000
Offroad 13.5: 3,500/20,000

These are my personal experiences. I of course would change these based off driver input and track settings/conditions.

This is why our team got this software first. I will be compiling the team setups and posting them on the website as soon as I can guys.
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i have not applied any boost on the endbell..would that make my turbo kick in sooner on the straight a way...what about my infield problem...what about the start and end rpm..r they ok
So, my suggestion is to ditch turbo(for now) and add 10 degrees of motor timing. This is how I run quite a bit, as I prefer a bit of motor timing. I'll be testing again as soon as the local track dry's up a bit.
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Edited my post after you quoted it, it seems. Sorry.
I've edited some of my posts after reading them. Sometimes it sounds good when you're typing, but doesn't really say what you meant.
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The rpm settings affect ONLY the timing boost, period. Setting these too low or too high can have adverse effects of course.

In general places to start:

TC 13.5 : 3,500/12,500
1/12 17.5: 1,000/7,000
Offroad 13.5: 3,500/20,000

These are my personal experiences. I of course would change these based off driver input and track settings/conditions.

This is why our team got this software first. I will be compiling the team setups and posting them on the website as soon as I can guys.
Randy, what about 17.5 offroad?
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Randy, what about 17.5 offroad?
you could use the same,these are his preference.you can try a little lower end rpm by a few k
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I did not know that the rpm settings only effect the TIMING BOOST and not the TURBO....wow..u learn something new every minute here...or am i wrong!?!?!?
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Can it be that my rpm range is to short?
I have now 7500 - 4900.
As I go 10500 -5000 I think that I will have more power in the infield
I will try it tomorrow.
I'd start with 30000-7000. Without any software timing, A 10.5 with 12 degrees should have good torque up to about 10k rpm. Timing should start somewhere there. And end timing at 30000rpm is ok too as its no where near its max revving potential.

Just remember that too much timing reduces torque, and too little timing reduces revs. Find the balance.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:34 PM   #9750
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i'd be really really curious to see some realtime rpm data on my car (or others) as when i was playing on gearchart and calculating rpm/mph our cars are pretty easily getting upwards of 25000 rpms on most tracks.. why is all the boost recomended to come in so early? hopefully i'll get more time to tune and play before the next race, but i'm curious to see what setting the high end much higher will do and adding the turbo on at the very end of the rpm range.. anyone try this yet?
I believe you'll be one of the first to find the right setup. Most people here simply thinks timing = power. The fact is timing should be added where REQUIRED.
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