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Old 12-31-2009, 05:31 PM   #9376
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End RPM walks around ever so slightly.

The start should be really close to the same after you go back in.

Also, just an FYI from other posts, from track use observations 7k as a "end" rpm provided slow results. Car was sluggish and pulls for crap.

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GOING OFF THE END RPM DEAL, DID GOING TO 8K MAKE IT HAVE MORE PUNCH, OR DID YOU GO LOWER, SAY 6K? THANKS FOR INPUT


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Old 12-31-2009, 05:35 PM   #9377
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A few of us will be trying out 12th scale 1S 10.5 setups on Saturday. I'll try to get the results together and post them. If there's any 1S 13.5 setups around they'd give us a great starting point though.

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Old 12-31-2009, 05:38 PM   #9378
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End RPM walks around ever so slightly.

The start should be really close to the same after you go back in.

Also, just an FYI from other posts, from track use observations 7k as a "end" rpm provided slow results. Car was sluggish and pulls for crap.

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I had different results when I tried it at our track. To each their own!
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:39 PM   #9379
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GOING OFF THE END RPM DEAL, DID GOING TO 8K MAKE IT HAVE MORE PUNCH, OR DID YOU GO LOWER, SAY 6K? THANKS FOR INPUT


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Had an issue that too much timimg was being applied at too low of an rpm. It robbed my rpm of the much needed punch due to the 180's that the track had. Just decided to raise it to a level where the motor was already spinning fast enough to pull top fuel style when it kicked in. Seemed to work great, even though the numbers on paper say that the range should be lower. I am going to go back to the track Monday to smack the settings around some more.

Looks like some setups will be posted soon and I hope to try what they have come up with.

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I had different results when I tried it at our track. To each their own!
yep, our layout seemed to cater to a different range.

Called tuning for the track.

Other drivers were also using it and came to the same conclusion and raised the min/max.

Even the Mamba guys at the track have theirs set in the 10-12k range.

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Old 12-31-2009, 05:47 PM   #9381
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:47 PM   #9382
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Thanks Tekin for the Update!!
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:50 PM   #9383
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First off thank you Tekin for this update for free.

I had a chance to run this new 203. There are some differences with this one compered to the Vegas 200. 25 of boost in the 203 is not the same as 25 in 200. As the car was much slower. WHen I went up to 50 boost I blew my 2 rear tires apart!!! I made the change to 50 boost and turned the car on. I hit the throttle once with the car on my pit stand. I was really surprised of the sound. I did it again and I heard a POP!! My rear tires blew apart. They were worn Jaco blues but still.

The new boost start and end point is very interesting. When you hit the start rpm the car jumps forward. It is really impressive. I tried both 13.5 and 17.5. In 13.5 the car was way to fast for our small 65x36 track. The 17.5 felt like a slower 13.5. I was able to run a 9.3 which is .1 faster than a fast lap before. I am also running a new T3 that I am still working on setup. SO I feel I will drop another .2 tenths.

This new software is no joke. It is almost unfair to those that do not have one of these new Tekin's for 17.5. It makes the motor a whole different beast.


How holds the X12 motor it with the new software?
Dit you try it on the track?
I want one for the nationals but as it can not handle the rpm's that the Tekin will give it now, i will take a speedpassion V3.0
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:59 PM   #9384
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here is the un official disclaimer Tekin is not responable for the power that you are about to release,tire shreading ,belt breaking,screaming the smoke out of the other motor brands because you didnt buy a redline.
ok i'm just having fun
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:00 PM   #9385
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from the looks of the setups it seems that the smaller the track the lower the end rpm and bigger the track the higher the end rpm.it makes sense
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:02 PM   #9386
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Got it finally. Had to register again and get a 2nd email. I did it earlier, but musta been too soon. Now, to decide on whether to run the Tekin w/ new firmware, or the new 1S edition MMP. Decisions decisions.
Tekin is alot smoother and brakes if used are alot better as well,Mamba is great for oval but the tekin stuff is so smooth.
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:07 PM   #9387
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mine still shows 18k-8kish after, just hooked it up.

It took 1-2 times applying the settings for my first time to get it to stick though. Also after setting it up, I would suggest always closing and re opening the program. The download I had would lock out the advanced button and had issues displaying the rpm correctly.

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i left the hot wire pluged in closed it and the re opend it and it stayed,unpluged it from the esc and pluged it back and it stayed
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:07 PM   #9388
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I've got the Hotwire on my Vista 64 computer. thanks Tekin.
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:11 PM   #9389
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Here are some general things to understand:

In TC most of our team is happy with 4000 rpm to start/ 12,5000 to end. Yes I know you can't get exact numbers like this but remember "genral."

In pan car most are liking 1500 rpm start/ 7000 to end.

Start your Timing boost around 40 to start out, find you gearing since you will likely be dropping 4-8 pinions depending on chassis/car.

Turbo has a new feature called "ramp rate." What this does is increase the rate the turbo timing is applied. So at 1.0 this was the setting Vegas 1.0 had. At 2.0 it's twice as fast, 3.0 is 1.5 faster than 1.5,etc etc.

My reccomendation is still to get your timing boost and gearing figured out BEFORE going for turbo. Turbo is always affected by layout, gearing,etc and since this software is that much faster than before you will likely need to re think your last setup.

If you're unsure where to start take your favorite Vegas 1.0 setup(v200) and start there with Vegas 2.0 .
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Randy is that drop 4-8 teeth from the Vegas 1.0 version?
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