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Old 04-29-2008, 06:33 AM   #61
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The RS will work with any sensored motor or sensorless motor. It likes the Tekin motors best.
so are you saying that this unit will not perform as good with other brand motors? novak/lrp/sp work great with any brand (sensor)motor , just wondering i spend money on it.
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so are you saying that this unit will not perform as good with other brand motors? novak/lrp/sp work great with any brand (sensor)motor , just wondering i spend money on it.
There are a lot of b/l motors out there, we can test ours and ensure they work well, but we cannot test all of the other brands (and winds) so I guess we are just covering our back by saying that.

Im not saying other brands will not work period, but they may not work as well as the Tekin motors. Testing and evaluation of it takes a lot of time, if anyone has experience of non Tekin motors and is reading this, let us know what your findings were, no doubt some testing has been done out there
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The RS will work just fine with any other brand of Sensored motor. We however stand behind the fact that our system is at it's best when running our Redline motors both sensored and senorless. Novak, LRP, Speed Pashion, and GM will all tell you the same.

I've run a lot of different motors through our esc's and still prefer the feel and power of the Redlines. The gearing is more realistic with our motor as well. Typically you will gear up 3-4 teeth compared to the LRP or Novak motors...This fits the chassis better as well as giving you a smooth feel with a ton of rip. We still offer the smallest package, no heatsink and a fan only in the highest of ambient temperature under the most strenuous situations like outdoor TC with 3.5's,etc.


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The gearing is more realistic with our motor as well. Typically you will gear up 3-4 teeth compared to the LRP or Novak motors...
What do you mean by "gearing is more realistic"?
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When he say more realistic, he mean probably closer to a brushed motor gearing, In most mod motor today there are what I call "Whistler" In other words motors with ton's of RPM so you need small pinion to use them.
Lower kv motor offer larger choice of gearing so you can keep the same motor for a larger range of track size and condition.

On my T4 I use my Tekin 448 from 18 teeth to 23 teeth, I think I can even go larger but my el cheapo unmatched nimh pack already show there limits...
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That's exactly what I was saying. The motor gearing is actually going to fit the car's chassis. Some of the motors out there require some of the smallest pinions anyone can find. I can't remember the last time I needed a 15t pinion!?

I was gearing my Yokomo 4wd offroader with a 448 23/84. I was gearing my brushed 10T 18/84 and sometimes a 12x2 22/84. This is well within reach of the motor plate.

Same car, a friend of mine was running a 4.5 T of other make and needed a 15T pinion in the same car to have the power and speed that I had.

That is what I was referring to.
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when will the RS be available, again?

Will an RS w/ 13.5 be as fast as an RS PRO with 13.5?
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That's exactly what I was saying. The motor gearing is actually going to fit the car's chassis. Some of the motors out there require some of the smallest pinions anyone can find. I can't remember the last time I needed a 15t pinion!?

I was gearing my Yokomo 4wd offroader with a 448 23/84. I was gearing my brushed 10T 18/84 and sometimes a 12x2 22/84. This is well within reach of the motor plate.

Same car, a friend of mine was running a 4.5 T of other make and needed a 15T pinion in the same car to have the power and speed that I had.

That is what I was referring to.
Yeah unfortunately on the opposite end (13.5, 17.5) 3 or 4 more teeth becomes unrealistic. You have pinions and spurs that are almost the same size!
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no heatsink and a fan only in the highest of ambient temperature under the most strenuous situations like outdoor TC with 3.5's,etc.

Im down here in florida and now that its getting into summer i had to add a fan on the ESC and Motor to keep cool and im only running 10.5 So in the summer im talking 95 to 98 outside and track temp 130 so how is this ESC going to hold up to that with out a heatsink
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So in the summer im talking 95 to 98 outside and track temp 130 so how is this ESC going to hold up to that with out a heatsink

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Tekin Prez,
What do you think of these types of super capacitors?
Do they work well with speedos or are they a bunch of hype?

http://www.rckenon.com/public_html/s...82&osCsid=aac2
Linger those are Cap XX capacitors. I bought 10 .33F caps on ebay about 2 years ago. I can say they made my crapy sedan cells feel more alive. I haven't use them in Oval racing but I guess I will give it a try this weekend. The worries I have about using a large capacitor may be parisitic if too large.

I have not installed them with my RX since they do leave the ESC on for up to 10seconds after ESC shut off when I did a bench test. Instead I just went with a 6V 3300uf UL ESR and a 33uf 50V to catch any RF noise.

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so are you saying that this unit will not perform as good with other brand motors? novak/lrp/sp work great with any brand (sensor)motor , just wondering i spend money on it.
I was really being a coy. It works excellent with all brands of motors. We have tested pretty much all of them. We might even drive their motors better than they do

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What do you mean by "gearing is more realistic"?
This may get confusing when we talk about our motors. Our slotless sensorless motors are lower KV with a lot of torque and require larger pinions. Really nice feel for offroad and mod TC with amazing power all the way to the top.

Our sensored slotted roar legal motors are very close to the others and will be geared about the same. Our 13.5 and 17.5 match up closely, as they are suppose to because of the stock and super stock rules being pretty specific. We did slow down our mod motors a little because the super high kv's are hard to deal with and we like the feel of more torque.

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when will the RS be available, again?

Will an RS w/ 13.5 be as fast as an RS PRO with 13.5?
They are on the floor and being assembled currently. First production runs always take a little longer to get going. We will be shipping units to a few drivers this week including some going to the carpet oval nats. If all continues to go well we should be rolling them out the door very soon.

I do not expect any speed difference between a RS and RSpro with a 13.5 or any motor. Technically the resistance is lower in the pro, but I doubt you will see it on the track since both are extremely low. The pro is for handling more power.

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no heatsink and a fan only in the highest of ambient temperature under the most strenuous situations like outdoor TC with 3.5's,etc.
Everything has limits. It is very impressive how well it performs without a heatsink or fan. There are situations where it may need a fan on the solder posts or at least some airflow and a dual cap. Mike Dumas could not thermal it on carpet with a 3.5, but in the summer heat on blacktop we will see... The 10.5 and slower should not ever be any problem.

Quality fets, a lot of them, switching them really efficiently and great pcb designs and quality.

We drive them everyday on our carpet track and they have been perfect. We are soooo stoked and proud to share them with you all.

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This may get confusing when we talk about our motors. Our slotless sensorless motors are lower KV with a lot of torque and require larger pinions. Really nice feel for offroad and mod TC with amazing power all the way to the top.

Our sensored slotted roar legal motors are very close to the others and will be geared about the same. Our 13.5 and 17.5 match up closely, as they are suppose to because of the stock and super stock rules being pretty specific. We did slow down our mod motors a little because the super high kv's are hard to deal with and we like the feel of more torque.
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I was really being a coy. It works excellent with all brands of motors. We have tested pretty much all of them. We might even drive their motors better than they do



This may get confusing when we talk about our motors. Our slotless sensorless motors are lower KV with a lot of torque and require larger pinions. Really nice feel for offroad and mod TC with amazing power all the way to the top.

Our sensored slotted roar legal motors are very close to the others and will be geared about the same. Our 13.5 and 17.5 match up closely, as they are suppose to because of the stock and super stock rules being pretty specific. We did slow down our mod motors a little because the super high kv's are hard to deal with and we like the feel of more torque.



They are on the floor and being assembled currently. First production runs always take a little longer to get going. We will be shipping units to a few drivers this week including some going to the carpet oval nats. If all continues to go well we should be rolling them out the door very soon.

I do not expect any speed difference between a RS and RSpro with a 13.5 or any motor. Technically the resistance is lower in the pro, but I doubt you will see it on the track since both are extremely low. The pro is for handling more power.



Everything has limits. It is very impressive how well it performs without a heatsink or fan. There are situations where it may need a fan on the solder posts or at least some airflow and a dual cap. Mike Dumas could not thermal it on carpet with a 3.5, but in the summer heat on blacktop we will see... The 10.5 and slower should not ever be any problem.

Quality fets, a lot of them, switching them really efficiently and great pcb designs and quality.

We drive them everyday on our carpet track and they have been perfect. We are soooo stoked and proud to share them with you all.

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