R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-27-2009, 06:07 PM   #7186
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 649
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yokemad View Post
How about the LIPO packs to Feed this Baby???
Tekin has only 3400 23C pack on the otherside LRP has 5300 40C Packs!!!
which will give you 212 Amps! is that really needed or just wasted?
for example how many amps 13.5T draws maximum?
Waiting for your opinions...
Thanx in advance...
On track last year 13.5 pulled 70 amps max and averaged around 25 amps in 12th. People all have different opinions on the wholw C rate thing but for me, it's not that big of a deal for single cell.

Tekin doesn't have a single cell pack at the moment. Hopefully they will at some point.

Last edited by Fred_B; 09-27-2009 at 06:11 PM. Reason: Apparently I have 12th on the brain. I was pulling about the same amps in sedan last year in 13.5 and it was the same deal.
Fred_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 02:23 AM   #7187
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Helmond
Posts: 1,544
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yokemad View Post
How about the LIPO packs to Feed this Baby???
Tekin has only 3400 23C pack on the otherside LRP has 5300 40C Packs!!!
which will give you 212 Amps! is that really needed or just wasted?
for example how many amps 13.5T draws maximum?
Waiting for your opinions...
Thanx in advance...
The LRP packs are good for mod but not for stock.
I tried them and I was 0,7 sec a lap slower. I changed back to IP cells and that were 4200 25C and they were faster.
I get this week TOP lipo's from 5000 28C.
The IP 5000 40C are also good.

Don't ask me why but the LRP's are slower.
Maybe a bad lipo or something but other drivers had the same.
__________________
http://www.mikky32.com
Tekin RS pro
TOP racing Photon
Tekin Redline 10,5
Protoform LTC-R
mikky32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 05:03 AM   #7188
Tech Master
 
yokemad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,150
Default

very interesting my ip3800 35c pack faster&punchier than brandnew ip5000 40c ,lrp 5300 28c on the way I can't wait to try it...
there must be something wrong here
my friends using 5300 40c and they think that's the best pack ever they used...
yokemad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 06:20 AM   #7189
Tech Champion
 
STLNLST's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 9,000
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Default

Congrats to Derek for his 13.5 win. I said that Tekin would be region 12 spec 13.5 champ I just hoped it was a different driver Looks like I get the back seat on future trips when Randy is driving The set up that we ran was pretty good. Started out with my own stuff but switched to what Derek had and tweaked it from there. Will post my set up later after I report to Randy first. The RS/Redline combo was great.
STLNLST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 08:53 AM   #7190
Tech Apprentice
 
Swampgremlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cape Coral
Posts: 63
Default Balitistic?

Does any one have a 13.5 balistic keeping up with a redline on this speedo? Or should I sell it and get a redline? Honestly
Swampgremlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 09:49 AM   #7191
Tech Master
 
yokemad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,150
Default

How does Ballistic feels with Tekin RS?
Some says works Flawless and really Ballistic
yokemad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 10:16 AM   #7192
Tech Elite
 
nitrobeast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Colonia, NJ
Posts: 2,340
Trader Rating: 41 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yokemad View Post
How does Ballistic feels with Tekin RS?
Some says works Flawless and really Ballistic
I've seen a ballistic 13.5 with v200 and man was it ballistic
__________________
Rui Goncalves
Team CRC|Awesomatix USA|TQ Wire|
Jackson curbs, ready for lift off!
nitrobeast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 11:07 AM   #7193
P2
Tech Fanatic
 
P2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oahu, Hi
Posts: 865
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by STLNLST View Post
Started out with my own stuff but switched to what Derek had and tweaked it from there. Will post my set up later after I report to Randy first. The RS/Redline combo was great.
Clint - I'm going blue to red....post your setup ASAP! The only difference is that I'm using a Duo 2.
Thanks!
Paul
__________________
TopRacingUSA | Team EPIC | Thunder Power | OD Racing
P2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 12:54 PM   #7194
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 900
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred_B View Post
Think of the turbo delay just like the gearing in a real car. If you shift too early the engine will bog down and not much will happen until the engine hit's it's powerband. Shift later when the revs are up and it will pull a lot harder in the next gear.

Running too much boost is just like skipping a gear and it will take some time to spool up and go.

It's all a balance and it's probably best to gear without turbo first and then tune in the turbo a little at a time to get tuned in. Full boost full turbo and minimum delay may not be the way to go.
Good advice! I think this is a common misconception. Adding timing is adding revs, but reducing torque. If you add the revs too soon, the torque is lost and the motor cannot gain speed - it will bog down and not spool up smoothly.

If you find that the turbo kicks in late, then reduce the boost. As I understand it, and have experienced it, the motor adds a fixed amount of timing throughout the rev range, starting at zero revs. Use this to increase acceleration off the turns.

Next, the boost comes in, at some point in the rev range, and adds a bit more timing. This always seems to work fine, and I have not had any hesitation during acceleration.

Next, the turbo comes in. This adds yet more timing, but it comes in after a time delay, not at a certain amount of rpm. If the motor has not finished spooling up using the boost, then the turbo just adds in more timing, reducing the torque, and the motor cannot spool up smoothly - it just bogs down.

Already on here the best advice has been given. Randy said to sort out your motor timing, boost and gearing first, and then add in turbo a bit at a time. Maximum 'attack' on the boost and turbo at the same time will cause more problems than it solves.

Cyanyde then won a T shirt from Randy for this quote:

"If you feel the turbo is coming in late on the straights, it may be that the
delay is set to come in too soon, causing the motor to lose torque and
unable to use the extra timing until it reaches a certain speed. Experiment
by turning off turbo first, then see how long the car takes to reach top
speed without the turbo. Use that time as the turbo delay. You wanna
make use of all the available torque without the turbo first. This will give
you optimum acceleration."

It's clear that when finding settings, you need to do motor timing, gearing and boost first, then make with the turbo settings last. HTH
SlowerOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 01:38 PM   #7195
Tech Master
 
cyanyde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: KL, MY.
Posts: 1,043
Default

did i get a T?
cyanyde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #7196
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Posts: 83
Default

I race on a carpet track that is around 36 meters long by 16 meters wide. I have my timing boost set to max, my turbo boost set to max, the delay set to minimum and the motor (10.5) timing set at 10. The motor comes off at 50 degrees (give or take), and when the turbo kicks in, and ******* hell does it kick in, not only does it kick in within the first 6 meters of the main straight because i've geared my xray at 7.5 compared with the 6.2 i used to gear it at on 198, but i'm gaining on cars and pulling away from cars by 3 - 4 meters.
RSCosworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #7197
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Helmond
Posts: 1,544
Default

I tried an other Turbo delay and it worked for what I could see.
Also stayed the motor cooler.
Turbo came in on a better time. I used 0,8 and I will try 1sec Wednesday.
I race than against some one els so we can see the difference better.
What I could see was that the Turbo came a bit harder in and it accelerated more than before.
Our track is to small to see a lot of difference.

Does any one has a good setup for a indoor track high traction?
Motor LRP X11 10,5T
Lipo
Track size 82 Feet x 49 Feet?
Rubber tires.

tight corners and not much places for a high top speed. I need a lot of acceleration power.
I thought of the following setup to start with.
Boost 10
Turbo Max (don't think that it will kick in at time.)
Turbo delay 0,8sec
7,0 to 7,3FDR

Or is 15 to 18 boost better?
__________________
http://www.mikky32.com
Tekin RS pro
TOP racing Photon
Tekin Redline 10,5
Protoform LTC-R
mikky32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 07:09 PM   #7198
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 99
Default

Hello my name is Shawn Buchanan and I run 12 scale at Nexus in Atlanta. I usually run 10 scale touring on road in the summer and 12 scale in the winter. I ran this last weekend and I was fast, but I difinately the new or latest version of the new hotwire. I am running version 189 from last season and I did well, but speed wise I needed some help. The k.o. smoked everyone, but it was because they were using the touring car setting. If I could get the newest version, I would appreciate it. My email is [email protected] ([email protected]). I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Shawn
__________________
Race Hard baby!
bucatl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 07:13 PM   #7199
Tech Lord
 
20 SMOKE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: HVR_ WEEKI WACHEE FL
Posts: 10,299
Trader Rating: 101 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bucatl View Post
Hello my name is Shawn Buchanan and I run 12 scale at Nexus in Atlanta. I usually run 10 scale touring on road in the summer and 12 scale in the winter. I ran this last weekend and I was fast, but I difinately the new or latest version of the new hotwire. I am running version 189 from last season and I did well, but speed wise I needed some help. The k.o. smoked everyone, but it was because they were using the touring car setting. If I could get the newest version, I would appreciate it. My email is [email protected] ([email protected]). I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Shawn
you have to email Randy for it
__________________
Jamie W
*Team Tekin*Tekno-rc*DE Racing*AKA*DDHRC*
20 SMOKE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2009, 07:31 PM   #7200
Tech Champion
 
John Tag's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Huntersville, NC
Posts: 8,925
Trader Rating: 42 (100%+)
Default

Shawn..

E Mail sent.. See yas in a few week's...
__________________
www.express-motorsports.net for all your motor needs
Multi time National Champions,Reedy Champs,Vegas Champs,Birds, Champs,[email protected]

Team Associated-Express Motorsports-Trinity-Reflex Racing-A Main Hobbies-ProtekRC
John Tag is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tekin Redline RS Sensored ESC and motors, opinions for offroad? Cain Electric Off-Road 4230 06-07-2015 04:38 PM
Sensored vs. Sensorless lemansracer Electric On-Road 71 02-14-2009 03:19 AM
New Tekin Redline Sensored Motors are Roar Legal! Randy_Pike Electric On-Road 3 08-05-2008 02:08 AM
Tekin Redline Sensored 10.5 HUCKMAN Electric On-Road 6 07-15-2008 08:50 PM
sensored vs sensorless bprocket Rookie Zone 5 05-16-2008 09:38 AM


Tags
v203, vegas 2.0


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 04:48 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net