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Old 09-09-2009, 03:58 AM   #6901
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Benokw,

That’s a pretty wild motor on a fairly hot day. It wouldn’t surprise me if you did thermal cut out. However knowing your on a 17T pinion isn’t to helpful, do you have your FDR available? From there on your other settings are helpful too, dual mode? Timing?

I’m assuming this is going to be a fairly large track – most asphalt tracks tend to be on the large side. When it cut out, did you check the temp of the esc and the motor? Its an extremely important step to monitor your temperatures, one you shouldn’t be overlooking.

Have you raced at this track before, with the same settings / gearing without issues?

With little information provided its hard to give you the answer you need. As well as heat issues, the RS could have been cutting out due to loss of signal.

Do you also run 2 power caps?
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:07 AM   #6902
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Thanks heaps guys. Do you think that FDR of 7.5 is about right as well?
That's going to depend on the track layout
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:34 AM   #6903
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Benokw,

That’s a pretty wild motor on a fairly hot day. It wouldn’t surprise me if you did thermal cut out. However knowing your on a 17T pinion isn’t to helpful, do you have your FDR available? From there on your other settings are helpful too, dual mode? Timing?

I’m assuming this is going to be a fairly large track – most asphalt tracks tend to be on the large side. When it cut out, did you check the temp of the esc and the motor? Its an extremely important step to monitor your temperatures, one you shouldn’t be overlooking.

Have you raced at this track before, with the same settings / gearing without issues?

With little information provided its hard to give you the answer you need. As well as heat issues, the RS could have been cutting out due to loss of signal.

Do you also run 2 power caps?
Thanks Monstercol,

My xray T2 009 is setup with a 84T spur and with a 17T pinon... that should come to a FDR of 8.4? Tires are sorex 36R with medium inserts..Drag brake was set at 30, profile was linear, timing was 0 and mode was set to sensored. Have installed heat sink and fan for it but it still went dead..didn't even went full throttle yet..

The RS came back alive after about 20secs after it went dead.

Its always summer here in sunny Singapore and have used a 6.5T before on the same track without any shutdown.

Have never temp the motor before.... maybe should invest in a temp gauge. What do you guys usually use? Would a IR temp gauge work work?

For the CAPS, have just used the only one supplied... Any diff for installing additional CAPs?

Maybe should just go back to 6.5T...3.5T might be a little to HOT for this track... Haha...Was too ambitious and should select the motor based on track conditions...

Thanks guys! sorry for a load of newbie questions...
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:38 AM   #6904
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ok.. stupid question time.. how does one get v200?
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:45 AM   #6905
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Did you use a bigger cap?
set a fan on your solder post. This will keep the speedo cooler.
lower your timing in the speedo.
what is your setup?
Thanks Mikky32!

Sorry went straight to the last page..

My setup is on the post above..
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:00 AM   #6906
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yeah put a fan blowing on the posts then it will not thermal anymore and light should be no more then 3 tops. Sensord is the way in onroad, even in mod.

Don't put the turbo on but go with boost only. 5 turbo should be the maximum with a 3.5t. I ran 9 on the boost with a 4.5t on a large track. Any higher and the motor will cog. When going with the 3.5t try to get the biggest cap that you can find. The standard one exploded with mine when used with a 4.5t. For temp use your thumb on the motor. When you can hold it for 3-4 seconds it is still ok
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:55 AM   #6907
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Hey there guys. Just in transition from offroad to the carpet and was just looking for suggestions on settings for my 1/12. I am running both 13.5 and 10.5/lipo on a 70 by 48 track. Hopefully someone can get me pointed in the right direction since I am new to the tekin. Thanks
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Thanks Mikky32!

Sorry went straight to the last page..

My setup is on the post above..
wow high drag brake. don't you brake your self?
Gear lighter.
What is your motor temp?
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:55 AM   #6909
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ok.. stupid question time.. how does one get v200?
John,

I'll send it later
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:18 AM   #6910
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Hi,

Have some question regarding my RS pro + redline 3.5T setup on my xray EU rubber spec.

After about 5 - 6 mins run time on my local asphalt track, the whole system will shut down with nil response; seems like its overheated.. (local temp that day was about 33-35deg C)

Am using a 17T pinon.

Can any body help pls? Anything wrong with my setup?

Many thanks!

I need more info to help out. I'm guessing that you're setup wrong and or geared wrong.

Most of our team doesn't run a 3.5 on asphalt. Most are running 4.5's and 5.5's on 2s lipo. Is this 5 cell?

A second cap will help along with a fan blowing on the solder posts as suggested. Can you also post a pic of your cars layout?
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:40 AM   #6911
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Raced today for the first time with the 21.5 system (I have tested it for some time but not actually raced it for fear of the dreaded magic smoke).

Temperature was about 75degC (give or take a couple of degrees). Sorry I don't speak Farenheit (I suppose this is about 167degF?). I hope this is acceptable. Please note, the temperature is achieved pretty quickly (a few laps) and remains there for the whole race.

Setup:
no drag, max brake, motor timing 0, boost 30, 1 sec turbo delay, turbo 10, sensored only, 2s lipo, no reverse, everything else not used.

FDR 4.083

Race report
Very good acceleration, very good speed, brakes ok (considering gearing)

Overall impresions.
Car much faster to the point that it is very clear that there is no comparison between black cans and 21.5. It is unfortunate, but there will be an unfair advantage for people using brushless. Just to give an example, even driving totally crap, times are much better when compared with brilliant driving a black can. One extra lap guaranteed with crap driving (please note I drove a brand new car on its first outing and it is not set up properly yet).

Hope everybody goes brushless otherwise the class will die and any victory is going to be hollow.

Very happy with progress. Hopefully my skills will improve to match.

Thank you very much Tekin Team for your product and support.

Please let me know if the temperature (see above) is OK, high or low?

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Please let me know if the temperature (see above) is OK, high or low?
167 is about as hot as you want it to get. Any hotter, and it would require gearing shorter or a few degrees taken out of your timing advance.
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:23 AM   #6913
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Thank you cap'n.

That's not a bad move because gearing lower would give some more brake, which I wouldn't mind at all. I will try it.
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Raced today for the first time with the 21.5 system (I have tested it for some time but not actually raced it for fear of the dreaded magic smoke).

Temperature was about 75degC (give or take a couple of degrees). Sorry I don't speak Farenheit (I suppose this is about 167degF?). I hope this is acceptable. Please note, the temperature is achieved pretty quickly (a few laps) and remains there for the whole race.

Setup:
no drag, max brake, motor timing 0, boost 30, 1 sec turbo delay, turbo 10, sensored only, 2s lipo, no reverse, everything else not used.

FDR 4.083

Race report
Very good acceleration, very good speed, brakes ok (considering gearing)

Overall impresions.
Car much faster to the point that it is very clear that there is no comparison between black cans and 21.5. It is unfortunate, but there will be an unfair advantage for people using brushless. Just to give an example, even driving totally crap, times are much better when compared with brilliant driving a black can. One extra lap guaranteed with crap driving (please note I drove a brand new car on its first outing and it is not set up properly yet).

Hope everybody goes brushless otherwise the class will die and any victory is going to be hollow.

Very happy with progress. Hopefully my skills will improve to match.

Thank you very much Tekin Team for your product and support.

Please let me know if the temperature (see above) is OK, high or low?

I'll be back.
Try lowering your boost, with it that high it may raise the temps. with it up like that your not letting the turbo kick in soon enough. if you are on a really big track then ok. but try going to 18 on boost and max turbo with .5 delay. the more you lower boost the sooner turbo comes on. with a high boost you will have a ton of rip low end but if your track is small then you wouldnt be able to let the turbo kick in. especially with a 1 sec delay. try this
10 motor
15-18 boost
turbo max with .5 delay
again watch your temps!!!
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