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Old 07-19-2009, 03:06 PM   #4981
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Push control is mainly there for brushed motors which have a lot of natural drag in them which can cause too much drag brake. Brushless motors have very little drag in them to start with so using push control on a BL is going to have very little effect.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:23 PM   #4982
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it is mostly for the heavy drag brakers to get the efect of a brushed feal,it is also something that if you like drag brake try it push control to help roll through the center some may like it and some may not
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Push control is the EXACT opposite of drag brake. This is mostly used for brushed applications but we do allow it in brushless. This will actually power the motor partially for a brief amount of time based off of how long full throttle was held. I could see this being usefull on high speed flowing tracks.

If you have drag brake and push control both set, you're working against yourself.

The FDR's I used were for Speedworld Raceway where the Reedy Race of Champions is held. The inside corner to inside corner of the straight is 165'. This track has some technical sections so gearing/timing setups are key. All who ran Tekin ran 199/200 and all improved there positions by doing so.
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Push control is the EXACT opposite of drag brake. This is mostly used for brushed applications but we do allow it in brushless. This will actually power the motor partially for a brief amount of time based off of how long full throttle was held. I could see this being usefull on high speed flowing tracks.

If you have drag brake and push control both set, you're working against yourself.

The FDR's I used were for Speedworld Raceway where the Reedy Race of Champions is held. The inside corner to inside corner of the straight is 165'. This track has some technical sections so gearing/timing setups are key. All who ran Tekin ran 199/200 and all improved there positions by doing so.
Thanks for making my weekend great. I had plenty of power and my motor never got hotter than 185 I believe. The fan on the motor also helped. The heat/torture test of the motors and speedo's went rather well IMO. Track temp of 160 and outside temps were 106-114. My RS never saw more than 4 lights after a 6min race with a warm up lap or two. I had quite a few straight away victims during the raceday See ya in a couple of weeks.
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Push control is the EXACT opposite of drag brake. This is mostly used for brushed applications but we do allow it in brushless. This will actually power the motor partially for a brief amount of time based off of how long full throttle was held. I could see this being usefull on high speed flowing tracks.

If you have drag brake and push control both set, you're working against yourself.

The FDR's I used were for Speedworld Raceway where the Reedy Race of Champions is held. The inside corner to inside corner of the straight is 165'. This track has some technical sections so gearing/timing setups are key. All who ran Tekin ran 199/200 and all improved there positions by doing so.
Thanks Randy.
I do not understand why my engine to go better with "PUSH CONTROL" high.
When to use new SW "199 200"?
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:59 AM   #4986
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final got to test my new tekin toaday at my local club here down under air temp was 22c

i was running 17.5 lrp with my rs,with 48p 33p 65s and the inprovement in power was awsome compaired to my tc spec. which was struggling to keep up with my mate on sundays race whom is running a tekin rs and redline 17.5 with a 35p 66s




The back streight is about 35-40m and so is the front for that matter with a technical fieild


My motor was only running at 45c so ithought i would go up a tooth on the spur

but when i went up to 34p 65s i didnt have the same straight line speed do i ghange the timing boost from 20 -25 or how can i get the edge over my mate at least ( Hello =Flip=)


Hope that i have given you guys enough info


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Old 07-20-2009, 09:23 AM   #4987
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As the LRP has a timing on the motor of 12 set the boost to 18.
Than find a good infield speed and the straight will be ok.

The Redline motor is faster than the LRP motor.
I have a 10,5 LRP and a Redline 10,5.
The Tekin is on the straight the fastest.
Infield I hath the same speed.
You must gear your LRP motor a bit heavier than the Tekin motor.
I gear my Tekin around the 6,87FDR
The LRP motor 6,0 to 6,3FDR on the same track.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:08 AM   #4988
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ya was runing my lrp combo at 3.4 - 3.5

and rs lrp combo at 4.04-3.92

but will adjust the boost

can the timing be adjusted on the lap can waiting to get my redline next week
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any trade in program for R1 to RS?
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final got to test my new tekin toaday at my local club here down under air temp was 22c

i was running 17.5 lrp with my rs,with 48p 33p 65s and the inprovement in power was awsome compaired to my tc spec. which was struggling to keep up with my mate on sundays race whom is running a tekin rs and redline 17.5 with a 35p 66s




The back streight is about 35-40m and so is the front for that matter with a technical fieild


My motor was only running at 45c so ithought i would go up a tooth on the spur

but when i went up to 34p 65s i didnt have the same straight line speed do i ghange the timing boost from 20 -25 or how can i get the edge over my mate at least ( Hello =Flip=)


Hope that i have given you guys enough info


Thanks wayne
Before gearing up try going down a tooth.
It will allow the motor to get up to rpm sooner down the back straight.
Did the car feel like it reached top speed by halfway to three quater down the straight ?
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top speed around 3.4 down the straight

when you say down a tooth is the the spur

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What rotor is in the LRP?

There is currently no trade in program on the R1.
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Thanks for the help with my F1 at the Speedworld Cup Randy!

My next speed step faster, with motor temps ~142, should be add boost or still smaller pinion?




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What rotor is in the LRP?

There is currently no trade in program on the R1.
The LRP has a Sintered rotor, 12.3
this is for the 10,5T but I think the 17,5 has the same.
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:40 AM   #4995
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randy its 12.3

here are the other spec. if it helps


Weight 168g
Power 153W
Type 17.5 TURNS
Efficiency 93%
Specific rpm/volt, kv 2.300
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