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Old 06-24-2008, 01:51 PM   #481
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I'm not trying to downplay Tekin. I just want the RS series to be the Best and the software is holding back.
You won't think so after you run one yourself.

I do agree on one point, that it would be nice to be able to equate Timing% with degrees of timing. This is the only thing I would do differently.

Neutral width is the percentage of trigger travel that the speed control will read as 'neutral', it has nothing to do with time.

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This is a far more noticeable feature with brushed motors, as they have far greater natural drag brake. This basically substitutes putting 'creep' into the radio. A setting larger than 0 for this will prevent the motor from coasting on it's own when the throttle is lifted to neutral from an elevated setting. It will continue to give gradually decreasing current to moment the throttle is lifted. The rate of this decrease is inversely proportional to the push control setting. The higher the push control setting, the more the motor will coast.

The available throttle curves are more than adequate, and it is one of the, if not the most adjustable brushless speed control on the market.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:16 PM   #482
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I'm still waiting on my RSPro....

I have had the chance to play with someones elses RS with Hotwire.

Things that need to be addressed in Hotwire software.

Timing? 0~100 is that precentage, degrees or miliseconds? Ditch the precentage and go to degrees or miliseconds.

Neutral Width. Again, Ditch the 0~100% and go with degrees or miliseconds.

Push Control? Documentation on what this feature does would be great.

Throttle/break profiles, If you ever owned a Castle Product you would would expect more from the "Pro" Brands

Then add the same adjustiblity from throttle/break profiles to the Hybird timing. Users would be very happy to have be able to adjust the timing curve for the hybird function.

I'm not trying to downplay Tekin. I just want the RS series to be the Best and the software is holding back.
Timing would be nice in degrees since that is what most people are used to with brushed

Neutral width...I understand that to be the amount of trigger throw where it stays in neutral before throttle engages. Percent and degrees would work fine for that. Don't see how miliseconds would work.

Throttle profiles...These days this really isn't needed on the ESC as that is available on just about any radio you'll see at the track anyway.

Push control...I thought this documentation was pretty good. In the software it could be defined a bit better but in the instructions it was fine.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:23 PM   #483
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Not having an RS or Hotwire yet, does the Neutral width correlate to the width of the neutral signal from the radio? I know that some radio vendors specify the neutral width in ms.
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See the above two posts for the correct description of Neutral Width.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:59 PM   #485
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Hi,

Can sombody tell me were i can buy a Tekin RS pro?
They are every ware out of stock.

Or when are they comming again?
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wait like the rest of us!!! They say end of June!!! I had waited 4 months when the R1Pro to be released and available. LHS I bought it from(RSPro) they only had two left.,Still they have no inventory, two month ago!!! Also with Redline Sensorless Modified motor, waiting on!!! LHS are not to blame!! Just wait!!!! We all be lucky if it available the end of July!!!
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This is a far more noticeable feature with brushed motors, as they have far greater natural drag brake. This basically substitutes putting 'creep' into the radio. A setting larger than 0 for this will prevent the motor from coasting on it's own when the throttle is lifted to neutral from an elevated setting. It will continue to give gradually decreasing current to moment the throttle is lifted. The rate of this decrease is inversely proportional to the push control setting. The higher the push control setting, the more the motor will coast.

The available throttle curves are more than adequate, and it is one of the, if not the most adjustable brushless speed control on the market.
Is push/creep benificial with bl? Will that provide more corner speed?
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As long as I get my RSPro by July 18th....i'll be happy.

As for the Neutral width, miliseconds wouldn't work for most users unless they understood that the signal was in PWM. Precentage would work if it considered % the total trigger movement.

Getting the terminology and units of measure on the same page as other manufactures will make Tekin more appealing and more adaptible to everyone.

For the documentation, I was refering to the Hotwire software. There is very little "mouse over" dialog to explain what the adjustment values were changing.
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Is push/creep benificial with bl? Will that provide more corner speed?
I think it still is with 13.5 and 17.5 motors. You will have to experiment with that.
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According to Jim the push control feature only works in brushed mode.
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davepull,

That would make sense. The benefit of it would be very, very minimal at best for most BL motors.
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According to Jim the push control feature only works in brushed mode.
the manual does say that the push feature is for brushed mode.
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That would make sense. The benefit of it would be very, very minimal at best for most BL motors.
I assume the brushless side of the scale would be drag brake, correct!
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NO push control is like putting forward roll into the car.
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What I meant was on a linear scale:

one end has brushed with natural drag brake where push control tries to reduce that effect and approach a neutral '0'

on the other end of the scale has brushless with natural push and needs drag brake control to approach that neutral '0' point
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