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Old 02-01-2009, 12:01 PM   #2296
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What is the difference between firmware versions 180 and 183?

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The only difference is that 183 is more aggressive down low as far as the profiles go. 180 with high turn motors was pretty empty for the first 30% of trigger throw.

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Randy, Is it safe to remove the solder posts and solder the motor wires directly to the PC board??? Old stlyle
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Old 02-01-2009, 02:22 PM   #2297
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It is safe? NO, chances are you're not going to get the solder to flow properly as the traces were not meant for it. I've see guys trim the posts but I don't recomend that either.

Modifying the esc in any way will void the warranty.

To view the current software level you must have access to a Hotwire.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:50 AM   #2298
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the speed passion motors with not adjustment have 12 degrees built in, the duos with the timing holes as 12 degrees on number 0 and 10 more each form there
I have a DUO 13.5 at left hole, which means 12 deg? My boost is currently on 23 with FDR 5.63. So my total timing is 35, seems on the high side. I am temping at 150+. Should I try to reduce FDR a tooth or 2 and reduce some boost? I could do with more stright speed.
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I have a DUO 13.5 at left hole, which means 12 deg? My boost is currently on 23 with FDR 5.63. So my total timing is 35, seems on the high side. I am temping at 150+. Should I try to reduce FDR a tooth or 2 and reduce some boost? I could do with more stright speed.
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you forget the 15 in the speedo.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:42 AM   #2300
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:42 AM   #2301
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I have a DUO 13.5 at left hole, which means 12 deg? My boost is currently on 23 with FDR 5.63. So my total timing is 35, seems on the high side. I am temping at 150+. Should I try to reduce FDR a tooth or 2 and reduce some boost? I could do with more stright speed.
If you are looking for more straight line speed it's going to take more gear or more timing. The problem is that you're starting to get close on motor temp so in order to add timing or more gear for the straight you need to get the car to go through the infield better. Once the car works better in the corners the motor temps should be lower. Then you can add more timing or gear.

It's hard to say what exactly to do without being there and seeing the car run but I've found that most of the time I end up working on getting the car better before I can add gear to make it faster on the straight.
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:54 AM   #2302
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I agree with Fred. I'd want to see the car on the track. If you want more top end you need more gear or more timing.

You're boosting pretty high now. Try this setup next time you're there.

Run the motor straight ut 0, boost at 30 same gearing. Running that setup offers great infield and out of the corner torque. Then the high boost timing get's you good top end rpms....
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:13 AM   #2303
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I wouldn't remove those posts, plus it is very difficult to get them out since they were installed with HMP. A regular soldering iron won't be enough to get them out without damaging something.

Plus your temps would go up quite a bit.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:15 PM   #2304
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I agree 100% with Randy you need to keep can timing down to 0 and go full boost this was the hot setup at the Birds
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Randy, I sent you a PM with my email address. I need to get a copy of the 1.89 software. Thanks!
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Great job at the birds!!!!!! Congrats to all the team drivers.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:13 PM   #2307
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Yes our drivers had a great Snowbirds! Stay posted to the updates on our site for more indepth's look at RS setups for each driver!
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Thanks guys. I am already on the least advanced timing position on the DUO can. According to Mxzhonkey, it's 12 deg...

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I agree with Fred. I'd want to see the car on the track. If you want more top end you need more gear or more timing.

You're boosting pretty high now. Try this setup next time you're there.

Run the motor straight ut 0, boost at 30 same gearing. Running that setup offers great infield and out of the corner torque. Then the high boost timing get's you good top end rpms....
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I agree 100% with Randy you need to keep can timing down to 0 and go full boost this was the hot setup at the Birds
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I'd double check that. I'm sure the Duo can go straight to 0. At least pretty sure!
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I'm pretty sure the Duo timing holes are 0-10-20.
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