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Old 04-09-2008, 01:29 PM   #1
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I'm considering entering the world of mini's. I'm curious as to what the differneces between the M03 and M04 are. As well as the "M" & "L" distinctions. Also, is ther a performance advantage to either of them? Thanks--Al
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There is a whole thread here on mini's. Go to it, also go to the link in the thread , it will take you to a wonderful site for under standing mini's
quite good.

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M03's are Front-wheel drive, M04's are Rear-wheel drive. M=mid-wheelbase, L=Long wheelbase. The front wheel drive cars are a ton easier to drive than the rear wheel drives, especially on low traction tracks. If you're just starting out, i'd suggest an M03M, like the Swift http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMFV9&P=7

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Thanks James!!-Al
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:54 PM   #5
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I agree with James.

Go for the Swift Kit!

That was my choice when I started racing Mini here!

The car is easy to drive. Just get some oil shocks for it and get the ride height as low as possible, especially if you are going to use the Tamiya 60D tires.

I do race an M04M now though. With a set of RP 36r mini tires this thing hooks up really well on our track

But check out the Tamiya Mini Cooper thread here and http://www.rc-mini.net/
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I actually have an old M01. I realize that this kit is older, but is it worth it to try it out? I'm not a big fan of the mono shock, but I thought I would ask.--Al
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You cant beat the swift kit!
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I've run both, and overall the FWD version is a little easier to drive. Not to knock the RWD version, though. If you get the suspension set up just right (it takes a while) they are quite fast, possibly even faster than the FWD, due to less driveline loss.

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I've run both, and overall the FWD version is a little easier to drive. Not to knock the RWD version, though. If you get the suspension set up just right (it takes a while) they are quite fast, possibly even faster than the FWD, due to less driveline loss.

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I agree with everything you said except I don't remember any driveline loss when comparing the 1st gen. M01 (FWD) to a M02 (RWD)- I had both.
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My mention of driveline loss is more of a guess than it is fact. One can only assume that with all the extra and ever changing angles thrown into the half shafts by using them for steering as well as drive that some driveline loss would occur.

I know that my FWD mini is slower out of the corners than my RWD, but that may just be a difference in driving lines and style for the platform. In a straight line, it's a bullet. My RWD tends to be slower mid to mid-late corner, in order to keep the back wheels planted on the line.

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m03/M/L FWD
208mm/225mm/239mm wheelbase

m04/M/L RWD
208mm/225mm/239mm wheelbase


there are 4WD mini out there!!! they could sneak in to surprise you
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Hi,

bringing the topic back.

If I have a M04L, what do I need to convert to a M03?
besides body,wheels and Tamiya (#50792) M03 Chassis A-Part (Chassis)?

thanks!
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If the plan is TCS you will need an m03 or m05 variant. The m01, 02, & 04 cars are no longer legal.

The 03 is by far the best choice for this area, the 05v2 looks to be slightly better on higher speed circuits.
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Hi,

bringing the topic back.

If I have a M04L, what do I need to convert to a M03?
besides body,wheels and Tamiya (#50792) M03 Chassis A-Part (Chassis)?

thanks!
M-04 shares virtually nothing with the M-03, it's not even worth considering a conversion.
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M04 gearing is different. 21T pinion
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