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Old 12-19-2008, 06:19 PM   #226
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Have you tried the RB50 or are you planned to run with a 4.0t or 3.5t motor.
If so, let us know your findings.

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Perfect timing, as I just got back from our local track and did 3 packs using an LRP 11X 4.0 turn motor and so far the speedy hold up. I started with 8.4 ratio (23.45mm rollout) as what is suggested with the 4.0 turn motor on big tracks and after 1 min the speedy went into thermal mode The reason I think was I had the temp cut set to #4 (120 C) as I didn't want to burn my new speedy.

I decided to turn off the temp cut as it's actually the default setting and is recommended for advance user (like me) and went down on pinion (9.43 ratio). I finished off the existing pack and did at least 3.5 mins with no hickups.

2nd pack, I did a solid 5 mins and bit run with the same setup . On my
3rd pack I took the risk and went up a tooth on pinion (8.91ratio/22.22 mm rollout) and again a solid 5 min and a bit run.

I can wait for the next meet so I can see if my gearing is spot on with other mod runners, but for now I will be sticking on this setup. Im happy with the speed on the straight as I normally run 10.5 and its my first time on 4 turn mod. Mod lap times here are only 1-1.5 seconds different to 10.5 class.

I was running a spool setup on my 416, Top Racing 36 rubber tires & Intellect 4200mah 30 C lipo.

Track has plenty of grip as its asphalt and I was driving with full braking on some spots and is now summer hereso temps were close to 30 degrees so maybe on a cooler day I can gear up abit more.
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:00 AM   #227
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Just installed the RB50 in my TC5, off to do some testing tomorrow
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:53 PM   #228
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Perfect timing, as I just got back from our local track and did 3 packs using an LRP 11X 4.0 turn motor and so far the speedy hold up. I started with 8.4 ratio (23.45mm rollout) as what is suggested with the 4.0 turn motor on big tracks and after 1 min the speedy went into thermal mode The reason I think was I had the temp cut set to #4 (120 C) as I didn't want to burn my new speedy.

I decided to turn off the temp cut as it's actually the default setting and is recommended for advance user (like me) and went down on pinion (9.43 ratio). I finished off the existing pack and did at least 3.5 mins with no hickups.

2nd pack, I did a solid 5 mins and bit run with the same setup . On my
3rd pack I took the risk and went up a tooth on pinion (8.91ratio/22.22 mm rollout) and again a solid 5 min and a bit run.

I can wait for the next meet so I can see if my gearing is spot on with other mod runners, but for now I will be sticking on this setup. Im happy with the speed on the straight as I normally run 10.5 and its my first time on 4 turn mod. Mod lap times here are only 1-1.5 seconds different to 10.5 class.

I was running a spool setup on my 416, Top Racing 36 rubber tires & Intellect 4200mah 30 C lipo.

Track has plenty of grip as its asphalt and I was driving with full braking on some spots and is now summer hereso temps were close to 30 degrees so maybe on a cooler day I can gear up abit more.
Danjoy Hi,
Thanks for the feedback and for me the nescesarry details, battery and gear ratio, I think it must be crazy to see the top speed on the straight.
Nice temp you have in your country(30degr.) here in Holland its about 7degr.
I have received the RB50 today from repair, i hope I can giveit a go next
week (tuesday probably) and i hope that i have the same positive result as you have.
By the way the gear ratio we use on the Heemstede track is between 1:6 for LRP4.5t motors and 1:7 for SP4.0 motors, we have a speed on the straigth of 105 km/h this is very fast with 4600 lipo with 6cell NiMh it is 95 km/h.
I hope the RB50 will do the same or better, I let you know when the wether is coming better.
Good luck with the speedo

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1:6 for LRP4.5t motors and 1:7 for SP4.0 motors ??? Are you talking 5 cells/6cells or LiPo?? This is far beyond suggested gear ratio. If using LRP motor, please beware the motor timing on the motor. RB50 is designed for zero timing on the motor (RB50 has build in software timing), ESC may burn if too advanced or aggressive timing adjusted on the motor.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:57 AM   #230
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A 400A ESC should not burn with those motors and gearing. What is the true rating of the ESC then to avoid burning one if using the wrong motor, gearing and timing?
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:03 PM   #231
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1:6 for LRP4.5t motors and 1:7 for SP4.0 motors ??? Are you talking 5 cells/6cells or LiPo?? This is far beyond suggested gear ratio. If using LRP motor, please beware the motor timing on the motor. RB50 is designed for zero timing on the motor (RB50 has build in software timing), ESC may burn if too advanced or aggressive timing adjusted on the motor.
So for those of us using LRP motors which come from the factory with 2deg timing (as marked on the can) should we re-time them to 0deg and let the esc do the timing?

I also run on a large track with gear ratio's in the 7's with a 4.0t motor.
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1:6 for LRP4.5t motors and 1:7 for SP4.0 motors ??? Are you talking 5 cells/6cells or LiPo?? This is far beyond suggested gear ratio. If using LRP motor, please beware the motor timing on the motor. RB50 is designed for zero timing on the motor (RB50 has build in software timing), ESC may burn if too advanced or aggressive timing adjusted on the motor.
I have used ratio 1:5.75 with LRP 4.5t on 5cell and all works fine for the required 5 minutes, and give my PR on the Heemstede track.
For de SP 4.0t motor i used ratio 1:7.14 i used this with 5 cell and Lipo4600-28C All works fine, no overheating or something like that, there was unfortunally no time left otherwise i would set the gear ratio to 1:6.8, this was due the fact that after 5 minutes i still have enough power left.
This is all done with the LRP TC spec, but at my home indoor track i have used the RB50 with the same gear ratio as always, and the RB50 stay's cool and for me cool means 50 to 58 degr.C

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A 400A ESC should not burn with those motors and gearing. What is the true rating of the ESC then to avoid burning one if using the wrong motor, gearing and timing?
You are right for the ratio 1:6 for LRP 4.5t with 14mm rotor, as soon as you go for a smaller rotor you have to move to higher ratio's

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So for those of us using LRP motors which come from the factory with 2deg timing (as marked on the can) should we re-time them to 0deg and let the esc do the timing?

I also run on a large track with gear ratio's in the 7's with a 4.0t motor.
You left the factory setting as it is, except when you run out off power, butt
i think it is better to set the time shift a bit lower

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Old 12-30-2008, 07:29 AM   #233
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Dear Max, dear Greg

More than one month has passed and I am still without a fully working RB-30. HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE REPLACEMENT?

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RB-30 does not hold settings

Got an RB-30 the other day. The speed control works as such.
I can go trough the 'Profile Setup' and all the blinking is exactly as per the user guide. However, after switching the ESC Off and On again, all the settings are gone.

PLEASE HELP

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Old 12-30-2008, 12:28 PM   #234
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Rambolin,

I am still waiting for you to send me back the original one
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:03 PM   #235
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Dear Greg

I know you try your best. I have one car now running one on a Sidewinder and I just need the sensored ESC as soon as possible. I was asuming you would send it immediately.
I am sure all will work out...

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[Rambolin,] That's the "no signal" response. If it's not the receiver or transmitter, it's the ESC. What's your full name and mailing address?
I'll get a new Sidewinder out to you. When the new one arrives please send that one back via the cheapest possible method.

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Old 12-31-2008, 09:50 AM   #236
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TEAMWAVE you have a PM and email aswell.

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Well after 5 runs with a SP 4.0 MY RB 50 Is no longer

i have attached a photo of what it looks like now after smoking up and smelling out the whole track. lol

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my fren jus fried his RB50 for d 2nd time y'day w/o any reason...he just plug in to d battery with d correct + -, but suddenly d esc come out smoke...end up he need to send back d esc to d LHS again....
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:35 AM   #239
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Well after 5 runs with a SP 4.0 MY RB 50 Is no longer

i have attached a photo of what it looks like now after smoking up and smelling out the whole track. lol
Sorry to hear. 5 must be the magic number with a 4 turn motor. So far communication is good as I sent mine directly back to Team Wave rather than the local online shop I got it from. Hope I can get mine back before the Summernats in -2-3 weeks time as I still prefer to run it with 10.5.
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Hoggy, have you adjust the motor timing on your SP4.0? Dan, your RB50 is on the way back to you.
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