23T motor thread
#1261
Tech Master
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wow! a hit after a loooooong time 
23T stock motors as Asians know them do not come with bearings; all bushings (correct me if I'm wrong). You can change them but in races which regulate 23T, doing that will disqualify the motor/driver.
Yokomo motors were generally preferred (we've moved to 11.5T brushless - 23T brushed equivalent); but I've had some good bench results from limited-edition Atlas motors.
Unless you're planning of running oval
...go for torque-based; which you can then adjust for speed accordingly

23T stock motors as Asians know them do not come with bearings; all bushings (correct me if I'm wrong). You can change them but in races which regulate 23T, doing that will disqualify the motor/driver.
Yokomo motors were generally preferred (we've moved to 11.5T brushless - 23T brushed equivalent); but I've had some good bench results from limited-edition Atlas motors.
Unless you're planning of running oval

#1262
Tech Addict

I too race 23T here in Okinawa Japan, and just about everyone here is using a Yokomo 23T ST torque type motor with the "MAX" type endbell.
I had very good results (performance-wise) with a standard endbell 23T from G-Style, but I just picked an Extreme Hurricane XX (EXM-111) to try out this weekend. It's based on the Yokomo Max ST TQ type motor mentioned above, but 3D balanced.
We'll see how she does tomorrow...
Other than that, I've used G-Style, Yokomo, and Xenon. All have been pretty good, and all the torque type motors were in the same ball-park, with the balanced ones (Xenon) having just slightly more response. The RPM motors were definitely faster on the longest straights, but would heat up with the same gearing as the torque-type motors so many of them would not last a whole day. A fast motor that can't complete a day's racing just doesn't do me any good. I could gear down, but then I'm on the same page as everyone else using a torque type motor, but with less response. How fun is that?
It probably depends on the track layout as well. For our track, the torque type motors do best. I'm looking forward to trying out the Extreme Hurricane tomorrow.

- Paulie
I had very good results (performance-wise) with a standard endbell 23T from G-Style, but I just picked an Extreme Hurricane XX (EXM-111) to try out this weekend. It's based on the Yokomo Max ST TQ type motor mentioned above, but 3D balanced.
We'll see how she does tomorrow...
Other than that, I've used G-Style, Yokomo, and Xenon. All have been pretty good, and all the torque type motors were in the same ball-park, with the balanced ones (Xenon) having just slightly more response. The RPM motors were definitely faster on the longest straights, but would heat up with the same gearing as the torque-type motors so many of them would not last a whole day. A fast motor that can't complete a day's racing just doesn't do me any good. I could gear down, but then I'm on the same page as everyone else using a torque type motor, but with less response. How fun is that?
It probably depends on the track layout as well. For our track, the torque type motors do best. I'm looking forward to trying out the Extreme Hurricane tomorrow.

- Paulie
#1264
Tech Fanatic

Perhaps you could consider tamiya super stock motors.
They are all 23T motors and they have 3 types ->TZ,RZ&BZ
TZ is more for technical tracks (lower rpm) , RZ for longer tracks (more rpm) and a BZ is actually for offroad (lower rpm)
We do use the BZ type motors cause they have lots of torque, but then again they are more suitable for smaller tracks and when you use this type of motor on larger tracks they wear faster. More maintenance is needed then.
These type of motors can be found on ebay or at your LHS.
They are all 23T motors and they have 3 types ->TZ,RZ&BZ
TZ is more for technical tracks (lower rpm) , RZ for longer tracks (more rpm) and a BZ is actually for offroad (lower rpm)
We do use the BZ type motors cause they have lots of torque, but then again they are more suitable for smaller tracks and when you use this type of motor on larger tracks they wear faster. More maintenance is needed then.
These type of motors can be found on ebay or at your LHS.