mac853

Yes, you are surely right, but let i tell you something, on a lot of non-US/EU/JP countries' federation, the scrutineering and judgement are always favour for drivers of themselves, i mean the most warned and threatned unfairly ones are always outsiders.
I could tell you i always feel not very happy on the race mainly by these nasty situation since i come back to my site from other country as exchange student, i confess that i became unfamiliar and to be spiritually excremented, so the cheaters are the federation, not always the adversaries .

aztecz

team luna comes out 23t motor kaiser33 & kaiser46. Which one is rpm & which one is torque? Pls help.

KoE

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kaiser blue - 3mm, torque-based

kaiser red - 4mm, rpm-based

kschu

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hi, any1 ever put d latest xenon motor(endbell adjustable) to dyno ???


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mikeygar

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mac853

Oh my god, the race rules will be like i have thought before, with allowance of 11.5BL mixed with 23BR on the same race.
Anyway i know is unfair, but if i want to be in the A main, firstly i must use BL system.
I have to buy a good BL esc, maybe a LRP Sphere TC, as most people say is the best.
But i have 1 question, instead of these 2 HK's brands, SpeedPassion and Roche have 11.5T, haven't got anymore brands which released motors for this kind of races, please?

-KilleR-

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Why not try out Speed Passion new GT ESC as I know there just been some good results with races in the US.

Since this 23T brushed or the equivalent 11.5T brushless is only raced mostly in Asian countries. Don't think you will find much brands with this motor speed.

mac853

Oh, looks i have repeat the same questions which i made already, pardon guys.
Yes, i have seen already the Malaysian racers forum about this Sportmans race case before, but what i have watched the youtube's clips seems the tracks of this country is really big and high traction if compared with ours, so on our track using maybe 11.5T didn't note so much the big difference with 23T, but i still think is unfair.

About which ESC, the problem is, i don't know if is good about these ones which all are designed and made in China could face with the European and US ones?
Because the Speedpassion cup drivers of HK didn't use these ESC in the race.

About the motors, if i'm not wrong they are derived from Feigao, like Speedpassion and Roche are from the same place, i think.
I am sure all BL racers of our championship have already purchased these Speedpassion 11.5T(the championship didn't start yet), so if i want to be competitive i think should have different kind among others.

-KilleR-

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I don't have much comments on Speed Passion ESC as I've not tried any of them yet.

As for Speed Passion motor I've tried them out and they are very competitive in terms of speed and durability. Feigao is actually the new motor line from Speed Passion. Both Speed Passion and Roche motor are basically coming out from the same manufacturer.

LazyBug

Are you sure what you are talking about ??

mac853

There's 2 version: old 1 is Super Sportsman Stock series, other 1 is just called Feigao. But i don't know what's the difference, there's nothing said about the Feigao's specs.
About the Roche 11.5T, there's 3 colours but are same, but nor this 1 has any specs.
The only thing i want to know is which 1 is better.

-KilleR-

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Care to shed some lights?

P/S Pls refer to http://www.speedpassion.net/

-KilleR-

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I'm trying to get hold of the specs as well but to no avail.

mac853

Well, i have to give you a bad news, someguy used it in 1 qualify session then pinion gear tip of rotor twisted, this guy reported us that he didn't find any faulty kind from his side then asked to be borrowed a LRP 13.5T then without anymore big trouble. He used that Feigao really from Speedpassion, but rest of guys use that Roche which supposelly is also from Feigao didn't show up any problem yet.
So i really looking for Roche 11.5T but still not in the online market yet, maybe 1 day i should go to HK to try the luck!

1101

Hi there
Can someone post a summary of this thread, 80 pages is a bit to read through
if you havnt been following from the start.
ie the consensus of the recommended 23T motors, advantages/disadvantages of torque compared to speed rev type.
Bearings vs bushes etc
Longer life motor types (Im presuming the torque types)

I'm thinking about whether to just replace my RZ rather than do a rebuild.
Thinking about a Kawada or Yokomo. Cant find any info if the yok's have bearings

Thanks