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Old 08-15-2006, 12:04 PM
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Just want to let you know for latest tuned 23T stock motor of my new Yokomo F-LR.
It uses only a basic tuning method to manage 37,000 RPM at 7.2V or 31,500 rpm at 6.0V

Later, I will replace the brush (still waiting to arrive those SP ver.) and the spring (got them already but still measuring the FSU for the correct one).
Hopefully I can get some more RPM, above 40,000 rpm.

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Old 08-15-2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Geetoo
23 turn motors are mainly for asian market only since its classified as stock motor that is in between 19t and 27turns in terms of speed. US manufacturers dont make this motor since they follow roar stock rules only. A few Euro countries adopted 23turns too.

Here are 23turn tuners I know of:

Atlas, Orion, Tamiya, Yokomo, Tectro, Xenon, Excel, Dinky, ARD & Excel. (Mostly japanese)

We are also venturing into the 23t Market. Currently we are playing with the Atlas based 23t.

What type of numbers are people seeing on a TD45 Dyno? We are curious as we have gotten some awesome numbers but want to make sure we are in the range that people will be expecting.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:11 PM
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Actually, for me, the number is not so important.
The important thing is how the performance of the motor on the track...
These numbers are only for reference.

How about the Atlas motor ? Are they good ? Never play with them...
Give me some info about the tuned ones from your dyno machine, then.
Have you seen any 23T stock motor that can run over 40,000 rpm ?
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I have been looking through this thread to find out some good starting points for gearing for the Ko Propo race, from what I have read you want to stay under 6.0 for gearing and be some where in between 5.5 and 5.8 and use a high silver brush, but that depends on the motor. The hand out motor for the race is going to be the Yokomo T-Max FLT 23T, does any body have any feedback they can give me on this motor?

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Old 08-15-2006, 08:20 PM
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I cannot comment on this....
Ideally, you should follow the recommended gearing but if you want more a bit precise, you should inspect (mainly) the track layout (hi-speed or technical) and also your car (BD or SD) type.
This is from what I've learned on this forum....
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hi all,

don complaint about me asking silly question as i am newbie in ep racing...

i was told that yokomo f series motor are the fastest 23t in the market today. so generally i went and get myself a yok FLT motor. using it on my TA05 with ratio 5.9 or 5.76. i found its much slower that my current tamiya RZ, much slower... my Tamiya RZ got more punch andmore top speed.
so can please advise me what actually went wrong? my local track straight length its about 110ft...

thank in advance for your dvise..


general new motor procedure, i run in the motor on my pulsar t 2.0V for about 3 min, than lube bushing, than fix to car and run it....

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Old 08-16-2006, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by edwintklee
hi all,

don complaint about me asking silly question as i am newbie in ep racing...

i was told that yokomo f series motor are the fastest 23t in the market today. so generally i went and get myself a yok FLT motor. using it on my TA05 with ratio 5.9 or 5.76. i found its much slower that my current tamiya RZ, much slower... my Tamiya RZ got more punch andmore top speed.
so can please advise me what actually went wrong? my local track straight length its about 110ft...

thank in advance for your dvise..


general new motor procedure, i run in the motor on my pulsar t 2.0V for about 3 min, than lube bushing, than fix to car and run it....
1st, you have to know that FLT is Torque, RZ is RPM so threat them differently for the gearing.
2nd, Have you cut the comm on your RZ ? the smaller the dia. of the comm, the faster the motor. For me, the optimum size is about between 71-72mm.
3rd, Some racer suggest that new motor should be lathe 1st then break-in untill the brush sits properly to comm (full contact)... I never measure the break in process in minutes .....

That's all I can say at the moment ....
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Can i use the xxx brush on 23t motor? a friend of mine use it on the tamiya rz motor and it seems alot slower than the stock brush.
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Can someone tell me where i can get or order the T-max FLT 23t on line??

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Originally Posted by edwintklee
hi all,

don complaint about me asking silly question as i am newbie in ep racing...

i was told that yokomo f series motor are the fastest 23t in the market today. so generally i went and get myself a yok FLT motor. using it on my TA05 with ratio 5.9 or 5.76. i found its much slower that my current tamiya RZ, much slower... my Tamiya RZ got more punch andmore top speed.
so can please advise me what actually went wrong? my local track straight length its about 110ft...

thank in advance for your dvise..


general new motor procedure, i run in the motor on my pulsar t 2.0V for about 3 min, than lube bushing, than fix to car and run it....
The Yok FLT is also geared differently compared to other 23T motors. i find that in a track where i gear 5.7-5.8 with a Orion Katana, the FLT is geared 6.3-6.5. keep runnnig it at that gearing and it will burn
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edwin,

couple of guys experienced that and found that it will come "alive" after several comm cuts as compared against the older yok models
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any one here tried Team Atlas Force MP 23T, are they any good? this motor are torque type.

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Originally Posted by barry
Can i use the xxx brush on 23t motor? a friend of mine use it on the tamiya rz motor and it seems alot slower than the stock brush.
Definitely, it runs three times longer than ordinary brush before you change it. It adds more power overall.
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Originally Posted by KoE
edwin,

couple of guys experienced that and found that it will come "alive" after several comm cuts as compared against the older yok models

thanks for your info....i was sippose to get FLR, instead i got FLT....well have to send it for comm.
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Just an FYI for 23T fans out there. We (Team Orion) have a new 23T Katana and it looks like we will be importing this one into the US. Once I get the confirmaton and specs I will post them here.
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