SMC 28C 4000/5000 Hardcase Lipo part 2
06-08-2008, 08:49 AM
#781
Danny
last weekend ran an orion 10.5 with the smc 4000 packs and i must say faultless although one of my mates was running the same motor on a track power 4900 and mine come of the track at 42.5 c (packs were cool) with a rollout of 40 and his come of at 75.0 c with a rollout of 36 ( packs were quit warm) with a difference in straight line speed of about 3 feet to me.Lap time were within .5 sec. How hot should the lipo get ??????
Competition ended on the sunday arvo so i placed the 4600 MM in for a trial run which turned into 2 batteries and 25 min later and the lipos were warm. What an excellent combo SMC4000 , Castle Creations 4600 just got get a bit more experience befor i place the 7700 in
Steven
last weekend ran an orion 10.5 with the smc 4000 packs and i must say faultless although one of my mates was running the same motor on a track power 4900 and mine come of the track at 42.5 c (packs were cool) with a rollout of 40 and his come of at 75.0 c with a rollout of 36 ( packs were quit warm) with a difference in straight line speed of about 3 feet to me.Lap time were within .5 sec. How hot should the lipo get ??????
Competition ended on the sunday arvo so i placed the 4600 MM in for a trial run which turned into 2 batteries and 25 min later and the lipos were warm. What an excellent combo SMC4000 , Castle Creations 4600 just got get a bit more experience befor i place the 7700 in
Steven
GLad to hear your getting good perforance out of our 4000 pack. It's normal for the temperature of our packs to stay cool as our packs have a tue 28C rate. If your running in limited motor classes you may want to look into heating the pack up prior to using it on the track. This will give extra voltage.
06-08-2008, 08:57 AM
#782
Hey Danny I've been waiting for my 5000 pack to arrive at my LHS for a couple months now, do you know when the new shipments will arrive in the SF bay area hobby shops?
Also, what would I have to purchase if I wanted to balance my pack? How is it different that an Orion pack?
Thanks.
Also, what would I have to purchase if I wanted to balance my pack? How is it different that an Orion pack?
Thanks.
06-08-2008, 09:11 AM
#783
Hey Danny I've been waiting for my 5000 pack to arrive at my LHS for a couple months now, do you know when the new shipments will arrive in the SF bay area hobby shops?
Also, what would I have to purchase if I wanted to balance my pack? How is it different that an Orion pack?
Thanks.
Also, what would I have to purchase if I wanted to balance my pack? How is it different that an Orion pack?
Thanks.
If your local shop is up on the backorder list with the distributors I would say he should get them anyday now.
For balance charging you can use an Equinox blancer by ElectriFly(Great Planes). If you already own a balancer you maybe able to get adapters to use it.
I'm not sure what you mean by how different is it than Orion packs ?
06-08-2008, 11:29 AM
#784
We have been shipping out packs to our distributors. Our packs are in such high demands and we have increased our orders with our supplier to hopefully get backorders filled out faster.
If your local shop is up on the backorder list with the distributors I would say he should get them anyday now.
For balance charging you can use an Equinox blancer by ElectriFly(Great Planes). If you already own a balancer you maybe able to get adapters to use it.
I'm not sure what you mean by how different is it than Orion packs ?
If your local shop is up on the backorder list with the distributors I would say he should get them anyday now.
For balance charging you can use an Equinox blancer by ElectriFly(Great Planes). If you already own a balancer you maybe able to get adapters to use it.
I'm not sure what you mean by how different is it than Orion packs ?
06-08-2008, 12:15 PM
#785
hello all, i ran my 5.5 novak with my smc 5000 pack for the first time today and holy crap this thing was significantly faster and more powerful than before. this is a good product and lipo packs should be the standard for todays touring needs great job to smc and others of course, keep it up peeps and thank you smc. 
06-08-2008, 02:23 PM
#787
06-08-2008, 02:56 PM
#790
The ice does not balance, but you can get a charge through balancer for it.
06-08-2008, 05:53 PM
#793
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRWF8&P=7
Thats the trakpower which is wired for orion and trakpower packs but I think you can put an adaptor on it for the smc balancing plugs since it is the same as the flightpower balancer such as this...http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRWF6&P=ML
I do not own a smc pack yet so I cant tell you what fits exactly.
Thats the trakpower which is wired for orion and trakpower packs but I think you can put an adaptor on it for the smc balancing plugs since it is the same as the flightpower balancer such as this...http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRWF6&P=ML
I do not own a smc pack yet so I cant tell you what fits exactly.
06-08-2008, 09:56 PM
#794
You can use the ElectriFly Equinox balancer from Great Planes. It uses the same balance plug that comes with our packs.
I reccomend you get the high power adapter for it as this will allow you to charge at 5 to 6 amps. You can easily concert the 2S harness that comes with it to be just like the high power harness.
I reccomend you get the high power adapter for it as this will allow you to charge at 5 to 6 amps. You can easily concert the 2S harness that comes with it to be just like the high power harness.
06-08-2008, 10:15 PM
#795
In some of the other Lipo threads I see some racers are confused when it comes to Lipos and there performance.
Here are a few things I have figured out and learnt about Lipos.
The mAh rating of a pack and it's C rate will have an impact on the voltage and IR of the pack. If you take our 4000 and 5000 pack which both have a 28 C rate the 5000 will have better IR and higher average voltage due to the pack being bigger.
The materials used and the way the Lipos are manufactured will also have an impact on the performance of the pack.
When testing a Lipo pack on the T35-GFX the packs that have lower IR and higher average voltage will run better on the track. Some seem to think that testing Lipos at 35 amps on the GFX isn't the correct way of testing Lipos for performance. So far I have tested many packs using the GFX and results on the track prove that testing on a GFX is a good way of testing Lipos.
Here are a few things I have figured out and learnt about Lipos.
The mAh rating of a pack and it's C rate will have an impact on the voltage and IR of the pack. If you take our 4000 and 5000 pack which both have a 28 C rate the 5000 will have better IR and higher average voltage due to the pack being bigger.
The materials used and the way the Lipos are manufactured will also have an impact on the performance of the pack.
When testing a Lipo pack on the T35-GFX the packs that have lower IR and higher average voltage will run better on the track. Some seem to think that testing Lipos at 35 amps on the GFX isn't the correct way of testing Lipos for performance. So far I have tested many packs using the GFX and results on the track prove that testing on a GFX is a good way of testing Lipos.
