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Old 12-02-2008, 07:37 PM
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Balancing SMC with V balance--Trackpower / Orion type

After several attempts to find the right adapter, buying 2 that didn't work, I found the correct adapter for the SMC. There are a few misleading posts on this topic in this and other threads....Thought I'd save someone else the headache. Here is the correct, direct plug in, no hassle adapter that allows the V balance (Orion / Trakpower) type balancer to work on the SMC 7.4v.

http://www.nexusracing.com/product_i...oducts_id=1940

Those balancers are the same as Hyperion's LBA6, I believe. Their newer chargers are based on the LBA10, so I don't think that adapter would work. That's too bad, because I'd REALLY like an adapter just like that for the Duo. Fussing with the board is a hassle.
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I don't think the Trak Power V Balancer is the same as the Hyperion Balancer. For the Hyperion balance chargers you need the adapter board as there is no adpater cord from what I have seen.
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Originally Posted by Danny/SMC View Post
Balance charging is not needed as packs should stay balance for a long time but if you do balance charge it doesn't hurt.

When we cycle our packs we use balance chargers and the reason why we cycle our packs is to make sure they are no cells with minor shorts which caus inbalance. We pick these out and send them back as these will tend to have issues.
so does this means that i dont need a balancer? because im planning to buy one.

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You don't have to use a one as I think the packs will stay in balance a long time. What you can do is to charge your pack up to 8.2 or 8.30 volts when your at the track and ask someone with a balance charger or balancer to finish off your charge once in awhile. This way you will be sure it stays balanced.
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will smc lipos fit on a tamiya 415msx?
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will smc lipos fit on a tamiya 415msx?
Yes, The 4000 lipo will fit. The 5000 will require some cutting of the bulkhead.
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one more thing, does the 4000mah smc lipo has a subc like curve under it, same as the orions? thanks!
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Originally Posted by berserk View Post
one more thing, does the 4000mah smc lipo has a subc like curve under it, same as the orions? thanks!

No SMC lipos are flat. No need for the humps.
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Anyone know who has a new style top wire 4000 lipo pack in stock ? I am looking for another pack for my B4.
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Anyone know who has a new style top wire 4000 lipo pack in stock ? I am looking for another pack for my B4.
Looks like SpeedtechRC has them in stock....
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We shipped out our newest batch of 4000s this week. We had been out for 1 month.
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Originally Posted by Danny/SMC View Post
We shipped out our newest batch of 4000s this week. We had been out for 1 month.
Are they the smc 4000mAh 28c 7.4v Lipo Battery w/ Carbon case? When are you going to up the C rating? I see other packs have 35c 4200 mah. I'm sure in the 20mm carbon case with leads from the top this would be nice.
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Yes they are in the red/black carbon looking case with top wires.

We can't release higher capacity in the current 4000 case or higher C rate as the cells take up all the room. We would need to release a new case and since we just got the rules for EFRA/BRCA we will do a case for there rules which should allow us to increase the C rate and possibly capacity.

Just because companies release packs with higher C rate it doesn't mean that it's true. You can search for the thread I did about false Lipo advertising. SMC uses 90% capacity retention at full C rate discharge to get the accurate C rate. Some use 80% which means that adds about 5C so we could claim 33C with our 28C packs if we use the 80% method.

We hope to have some good info soon on our website about Lipo C rate testing.
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Originally Posted by Danny/SMC View Post
Yes they are in the red/black carbon looking case with top wires.

We can't release higher capacity in the current 4000 case or higher C rate as the cells take up all the room. We would need to release a new case and since we just got the rules for EFRA/BRCA we will do a case for there rules which should allow us to increase the C rate and possibly capacity.

Just because companies release packs with higher C rate it doesn't mean that it's true. You can search for the thread I did about false Lipo advertising. SMC uses 90% capacity retention at full C rate discharge to get the accurate C rate. Some use 80% which means that adds about 5C so we could claim 33C with our 28C packs if we use the 80% method.

We hope to have some good info soon on our website about Lipo C rate testing.
Do you know who has them in stock as I can't seem to find them anywhere?
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Well I haven't raced since Aprils trophy race in Arkansas at the Nationals track. Been busy with college and playing with my real car. Anyways, I just unpacked my RC stuff a few days ago. I'm about to see how the SMC 4000 lipo packs have held up for 7-8 months of storage. I think I put 1000mah into them before I left Ark. Not sure.

I'll be using the same method that I have used in the past with my GFX charger. Just scroll back several months in this thread for my list of results that I had kept a log on. I'll post up my results Sunday or Monday. I'll have to cut and paste that once I find them. But, tonight, my storage voltage after all these months is 7.47v on Pack 1, and 7.48v on Pack 2. Now, I start my cycles. I'll record each cycle and post up my findings.....
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