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Old 02-12-2008, 08:36 PM   #1
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Default Can a TC4 still be competitive for a NEWB?

Quick question regarding the Associated TC4.

I have some off road electric/nitro stuff and was thinking about getting into the world of electric indoor carpet racing. It looks like most of the guys at the track are running xrays and TC5's. I can get a really good deal on a brand new TC4 and was wondering if it was worth it?

I am by no means a pro or even an experienced carpet racer. I am just looking for something to mess around with, but don't want to waste money on something that might be outdated. I want something that I can be somewhat competitive with in the future.

To me it looks like the TC4 is similar in design to my RC18T FT and my RC18MT, with the solid drive shaft between the diffs. I know there is more to it, but the design looks straightforward and easy to maintain. I am not sure how difficult the belts are to work with.

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The TC4 should be fine, its a very competitive car in the right hands, however, how much are you going to spend on the one you are looking at. The TC5 is pretty inexpensive compared to the other top of the line vehicles @ $320 or so.
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if you're going to run rubber tires...as a beginner the car may do okay...
on foams the car is not at best.

You might find a T2 or RDX better suited to running at pretty low prices on the RCtech sale thread but you might want to also consider; 1. LHS can order parts for easily 2. getting setup help with at the track or online.
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Old 02-13-2008, 06:59 AM   #4
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The TC4 RTR is going for $159. My LHS does carry the parts for these cars as well as the TC5.

The car will mostly be run on carpet with foam tires.

The cheapest I have seen the TC5 for is around $350. So I was just wondering if the TC5 for twice the cash was worth it, or if the TC4 would work.

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Avoid the TC4 RTR, it has plastic non threaded shocks and the arm mounts have the shims built in, where you cannot adjust them without replacing them. Makes setting up the car very difficult. RTR has plastic CVD bones. If you decide to run a TC4 rather that a TC5 or other car, look for a used one on Ebay or here that has threaded shocks, aluminum or steel CVD's, front spool, one-way, etc.
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The TC4 RTR is going for $159. My LHS does carry the parts for these cars as well as the TC5.

The car will mostly be run on carpet with foam tires.

The cheapest I have seen the TC5 for is around $350. So I was just wondering if the TC5 for twice the cash was worth it, or if the TC4 would work.

Thanks for all the replies!
TC5 is a better choice since its the latest. and you know AE wont update it every 6 months. so you know its a solid choice. plus it'll be easier for a newb since you wont have to worry about stripping gears since you might hit stuff there is also a greater selection of set ups since that is the flagship car now.

[shamelessplug] i do have a TC5 for sale that comes with an ITF chassis and stock chassis with spares, custom body and a spool. check it out below. [/endshamelessplug]

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=205008
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Belts are far more advanced then they have ever been and the shaft cars are getting less and less popular. A shaft car will take a better driver to get it to go fast aside from the fact that the TC4 is cheaper and since you are newbe I would totally recommend the TC5!! It will be easy to drive, fast and you can gets parts everywhere for it.... Good luck!!

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TC5 +1.
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I guess if you were just going to mess around with the TC4 RTR it would be ok but it would probably be harder to get set up compaired to the TC5. Don't let no one fool you electric touring car will get expensive...FAST. f you are not going to try to be a pro driver, and you need to keep your budget down consider running rubber tires The TC5 is the Cheapest yet one of the faster cars at the track.
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To be on the cutting edge... both foam and rubber classes can be costly. On a local level where every weeks race is NOT a national event (some tracks have that kinda competition) rubbers can be the cheapest class to run. Foams are expensive for rookies (chunks/broken rims) and seasoned racers (truing tires to meet rollout) alike. If your local competition is consistent fast guys that race more for fun than bragging rights.... then a Tc4 with rubber tires and some decent skill can go a LONG way. Keep in mind though... if someone is willing to throw on new tires and buy the best packs and dyno every motor they drop in the car AND they have the driving skillz to back it up... your Tc4 will likely finish behind him despite your best efforts. The car is handicapped on high traction tracks or medium grip tracks with foams. Alot of power will also draw its weaknesses forward. IF however you are just starting in the hobby/TC, dropping $400 on a rolling chassis is alot. Buying a Tc4 for cheap can give you leftover $$$ to buy the good servo you have to have for TC and let you spend a little more $$$ on decent electronics while you go through your learning curve, abusing a cheaper car that needs cheaper parts to fix. Once you get your lap times within the .10 per lap and can run entire battery packs w/o crashing or hitting anything or other cars... THEN its time to pick up another ride worth your skill set. Im not saying the Tc4 isnt a good car to start with... i am saying it has its competitive limits. Kickass drivers can wheel a soda can and beat you... so focus on your skill before considering a $170 car as a bad investment.

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+1 for DaveW's comment.

I bought a TC5 (have not run it yet) but I doubt I will see its most of its potential for about a year of running, as I have not raced TC for 2 years, let alone EP TC. Still, I usually learn to drive decently pretty fast, so I figured I'd buy a competitive kit so I do not feel the need to upgrade later on. Remember its a hobby, do what you want to have fun.
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Wow, thanks for all the great replies. I am by no means looking to go pro. I just want to have fun at the track and maybe possbily one day keep up with the better drivers there.

I think I am leaning towards the TC5 since it seems a little more popular at my local capet track and I might be able to pick up more tuning pointers from the veterans.

Thanks again!
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Every new person that comes to the hobby is great.

Remember have FUN...that should always be first...
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