R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-10-2008, 07:17 PM   #1
Super Moderator
 
Marcos.J's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Semper Fi
Posts: 27,199
Trader Rating: 182 (100%+)
Default BMI DB10R!!!

Might as well and get a thread started for this awesome car!! This car seems to have a very unique layout for the electronics!! I cant wait to get one in my hands!! (hint , hint)






Last edited by Marcos.J; 02-10-2008 at 07:34 PM.
Marcos.J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2008, 10:48 PM   #2
Tech Regular
 
Mike Schumacher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: RC Madness, CT
Posts: 278
Trader Rating: 36 (100%+)
Default

Wow! 1/10 pan car class is coming back. Nice job, Jason.

I just wonder why the batteries right in the center of the chassis...
__________________
◄◄ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ☆ ★ ►►
Mike Schumacher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2008, 10:58 PM   #3
Tech Elite
 
JimmyMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NC
Posts: 4,443
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Hmmmm, so I can't use my existing lipo's if I wanted to go that route? Has to be saddle pack lipos? Trying to weigh my options before I decide on which Pro10 to get. I know there is a push for 4cell which I like. But acceptance of current lipo's is something I need (or would like) as well.

Not bad looking. Not sure if I like the top deck design. I like where the ESC is placed. Good idea. Is there gonna be a front brace? Hmmmm gonna be a tough call.....
__________________
M.J. McIntyre

Yokomo YRX12
Tamiya TB03
JimmyMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2008, 11:59 PM   #4
Tech Addict
 
GreaseMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 552
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Well, it's certainly different to what I was expecting. For some reason it reminds me of the Yokomo YRX-10.
__________________
I'm not a grown man playing with toys. I'm a hobbyist.
GreaseMonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 04:12 AM   #5
Tech Lord
 
protc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spring Hill,Florida
Posts: 10,838
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Thanks guys. What we were finding is that with the increased wheelbase over the 1/12th car, the weight needed to be shifted forward some to get the car to rotate throughout the whole corner. We got it right with them 1/2 inch further back. So what i decided to do was to take it 1 step further and crunch the for and aft weight distribution and make the car rotate more smoothly by moving the elctronics to the back to achieve the same front to rear weight distribution with a more centralized mass. This layout made the car handle the best.

Saddle pack lipo will become the norm and we wanted to take advantage of this. As i have stated about my 1/12th car, I always try to think ahead to make it so i dont need to keep releasing cars. Saddle packs are ideal to make the cars handle and i really feel that this is the direction TC will take and offroad has already taken.
__________________
Jason Breiner
BMI Racing
Team Associated
J Concepts

Last edited by protc3; 02-11-2008 at 04:57 AM.
protc3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 07:13 AM   #6
Tech Champion
 
AdrianM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 5,914
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyMac View Post
Hmmmm, so I can't use my existing lipo's if I wanted to go that route? Has to be saddle pack lipos? Trying to weigh my options before I decide on which Pro10 to get. I know there is a push for 4cell which I like. But acceptance of current lipo's is something I need (or would like) as well.

Not bad looking. Not sure if I like the top deck design. I like where the ESC is placed. Good idea. Is there gonna be a front brace? Hmmmm gonna be a tough call.....
The next generation of sedans will not use sitck lipo. If the weight gets lowered on sedans (it will eventually) it will be impossible to balance a car left to right with a stick lipo. The Losi and Team Magic cars work but compromise other important things to achieve balance.

The next gen sedans will be saddle lipo.
__________________
Adrian Martinez
What I run: Schumacher Mi5/Associated RC10R5.1/Associated RC12R5.2/Futaba/HobbyWing/Team EA Motorsports/BSR Racing
Where I run: Florida Indoor R/C Complex/Thunder Racing/Florida On Road State Series
AdrianM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 09:21 AM   #7
Tech Regular
 
JevUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dover, UK
Posts: 310
Default

Saddles are for horses
__________________
MRT, Novak, Spektrum, Sanwa, Tamiya, Alleven RC, Maxamps, CheapBatteryPacks, Duratrax Ice, Pro Peak PSU, Nuova Faor, McLarney Racing, Futaba, KO Propo, Team Associated, Enerland.
JevUK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 09:25 AM   #8
Tech Elite
 
squarehead's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
Posts: 4,211
Trader Rating: 75 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to squarehead Send a message via MSN to squarehead Send a message via Yahoo to squarehead Send a message via Skype™ to squarehead
Default

Definitely not what I was expecting, either. But nice!

I'm wondering how a lager brushless GTB with a fan fits in that area under the shock? Have you guys tried to fit something with a higher profile in there?

I don't see these cars taking a foothold at indoor carpet tracks for many of the same reasons they died 15 years ago, but outdoors on flat paved tracks and low turn motors on lipos, this could be a fantastic class.
__________________
Everything depends.
Nothing is always.
Everything is sometimes.
squarehead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 09:41 AM   #9
Tech Lord
 
protc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spring Hill,Florida
Posts: 10,838
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApexSpeed View Post
Definitely not what I was expecting, either. But nice!

I'm wondering how a lager brushless GTB with a fan fits in that area under the shock? Have you guys tried to fit something with a higher profile in there?

I don't see these cars taking a foothold at indoor carpet tracks for many of the same reasons they died 15 years ago, but outdoors on flat paved tracks and low turn motors on lipos, this could be a fantastic class.
There is room to move the speedo left to right and allow for a speedo with a fan. There is also more room in the electronics area to mount larger speedos.

The biggest reason these car died out before was the physical size of them
(235mm) which is just too big for indoor tracks and most asphalt tracks in the US and also the speed. The speed was too much and the cars became very dangerous.

With the more narrow(200mm) and the cooperation of the general public and track owners, We can keep the speeds to where they are safe like we have in TC and they will be small enough to run indoors without any sacrifices.

I really feel that these cars can be a cheaper answer for TC. They handle better, they are cheaper, and much more simple for people to get them working real good.

I really feel that once people try them and see how similar on the track they are to TC, they will be more widely accepted. We need to get them out there and running.

I know that this car is not what alot of you expected. I was on the fence on whether to keep it standard and go with the flow or stick to my guns and go for all out performance and ease of use. I went the direction of being different because i felt that all of my products are a reflection of my ability to develope the best handling car i can. If i didnt go the route i did, i would not have been true to myself or happy with a product that i offer. When it came down to it, I thought to myself that if i didnt go for the performance and follow my views that i would rather not release the car at all. I wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinking that i just went with the flow when i didnt feel it was a best effort.
__________________
Jason Breiner
BMI Racing
Team Associated
J Concepts
protc3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 09:54 AM   #10
Tech Regular
 
JevUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dover, UK
Posts: 310
Default

I didn't think moving the cell forward was that wacky..

Congrats anyway and I hope you can take thinking outside of the box to the next level. All pan cars including 1/12th are still stuck in the 90's design wise.

There is a hole in the rules to have the motor connected to the chassis and transfer power to the fixed rear axel with a drive shaft for example.

I'll be testing a rebuild trinity evo 10 tomorrow with lipo's and a fast motor. It's funny because nothing has moved on much since the evo 10 and my lipo fits in it perfect .
__________________
MRT, Novak, Spektrum, Sanwa, Tamiya, Alleven RC, Maxamps, CheapBatteryPacks, Duratrax Ice, Pro Peak PSU, Nuova Faor, McLarney Racing, Futaba, KO Propo, Team Associated, Enerland.
JevUK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 11:29 AM   #11
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 313
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyMac View Post
Hmmmm, so I can't use my existing lipo's if I wanted to go that route? Has to be saddle pack lipos? Trying to weigh my options before I decide on which Pro10 to get. I know there is a push for 4cell which I like. But acceptance of current lipo's is something I need (or would like) as well.

Not bad looking. Not sure if I like the top deck design. I like where the ESC is placed. Good idea. Is there gonna be a front brace? Hmmmm gonna be a tough call.....
Jimmy,
Where are you planning on running it at? I have been interested in these but figured even if a couple of folks locally bought them it would end up going the same direction as F201, run a couple of races and not enough people show up at one time to keep things interesting.
tarheelquality is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 12:55 PM   #12
Tech Fanatic
 
trailranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 946
Default

Is the battery pack bottom loaded?

The car looks great, maybe it will fit a "Small Brick" lipo.
trailranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 01:25 PM   #13
Tech Lord
 
protc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spring Hill,Florida
Posts: 10,838
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

...
__________________
Jason Breiner
BMI Racing
Team Associated
J Concepts

Last edited by protc3; 02-11-2008 at 01:36 PM.
protc3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 01:29 PM   #14
Tech Lord
 
protc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spring Hill,Florida
Posts: 10,838
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

...
__________________
Jason Breiner
BMI Racing
Team Associated
J Concepts
protc3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2008, 01:29 PM   #15
Tech Lord
 
protc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spring Hill,Florida
Posts: 10,838
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

...
__________________
Jason Breiner
BMI Racing
Team Associated
J Concepts

Last edited by protc3; 02-11-2008 at 04:16 PM.
protc3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
db10r for sale j manikis R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 19 06-25-2008 05:25 AM
BRAND NEW, never ran BMI DB10R 74VWTECH R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 6 06-24-2008 03:05 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 04:18 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net