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Old 06-27-2003, 06:31 AM   #1
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Here is an early picture.
Will post more about/reasoning for the conversion a little later.
Will be an outlaw/open, 7-cell, 200mm, 2-speed, 35mm foam tire, brushless, Lola.

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Old 06-27-2003, 06:32 AM   #2
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Old 06-27-2003, 03:50 PM   #3
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I don't know if you realize this, but Hardcore Racing makes a conversion chassis similar to yours, one where it has the same layout of the tc3 chassis with holes for the NTc3 suspension. Even so, I like your ingenuity.
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Old 06-27-2003, 07:24 PM   #4
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Just curious, where did you get that nice battery mount ?

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Old 06-27-2003, 09:50 PM   #5
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I would like to know about the 2 speed system you are going to use and where you can get one from.

I have been looking to get my hands on a 2 speed for an electric so that I may experiment and play around with but I can't seem to find out where to buy the kit from.

Any help would be great

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If you are building a car for all out speed, you would propably have better luck with a real low turn modified motor, should be much faster than a brushless motor.
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Old 06-27-2003, 11:16 PM   #7
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Steevo,

I believe that HPI and Yokomo have both made two speeds for electric vehicles. The HPI was for associateds off road truck I think. I have no idea what the Yokomo was designed for. I don't know where you could find either but if they were produced they must be out there somewhere. Good luck, Dave.
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Yes, apparently there is a company that makes a 2 speed set up for the TC3, Alex Barracuda R2, TA04/414M series and the Kyosho. I can't seem to find out who they are and who stocks them.......

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Proficar403,
Thanks! Hmmm... guess I should've started making chassis kits too.... Aluminum one's would be way cheaper than $219 for the titanium one. Oh well, thanks for the info!

Ongbenghui,
They were just extra parts from my brothers F201.

Steevo,
The car was converted from a Team NTC3. I just dropped in the 1-speed setup from their new RTR NTC3. Currently, I'm looking for a one-way bearing to replace the ball bearing in the 2nd speed housing; installed 'reverse' of the 1st speed's one-way bearing, this would provide the braking (otherwise I'd have to find a way to utilize the stock brake disk).

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Is this Randy from SD? If so, this is Rich. How you doin' man? BTW, naah, this isn't meant to be a drag car. I wanted something with no hassles to play with if I crash out all my MRX-3's at Rev/CP/KZ.
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randman-a low turn motor is a lot fast but it envolves more work-cutting the comm and such

tweak-how u gonna do the 2speed??

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Neat project....
If you really want to scare people ditch the novak BL(own one) and put in hacker BL...you can get them in 6 turn..
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Yes, apparently there is a company that makes a 2 speed set up for the TC3, Alex Barracuda R2, TA04/414M series and the Kyosho. I can't seem to find out who they are and who stocks them.......

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try www.rainbowten.co.jp
i saw a 2 speed for a tao4, and you could always ask NAO.
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try www.rainbowten.co.jp
i saw a 2 speed for a tao4, and you could always ask NAO.
Good luck!!!
Thanks for the help lem2.
I actually thought of Rainbow Ten this morning and emailed them already.

I looked through their parts list and found a 2 speed set up for the Alex Barracuda R2 but was shocked at the price (about $150US) ouch
A bit too much for my liking,... especially as I only want to experiment with it....

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Rdub,
There is a one-way bearing in the first gear spur that 'catches' the shaft when power is applied. This same bearing also allows the spur gear to freewheel when the shaft rotation speed (turning in a particular direction as the car goes forward) exceeds the rotation or the spur gear (like when in 2nd gear or when braking with the motor). Now in a normal nitro car, there is a regular ball bearing in the second gear spur; but that's because there is a seperate disk brake along the transmission shaft. However, in the case of an electric without the disk brake, we need another one-way bearing in the second gear spur. This bearing will freewheel (like a conventional bearing) when the shaft rotation is slower than that 2nd gear (like when in first gear); then when second gear is engaged, the bearing is static/stopped relative to the gear; lastly, when the shaft rotation is faster than the gear (like under motor braking), the bearing will 'catch' and voila... you have motor braking!

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Heheheh! I know, I know. Actually, I've had a Modeltech BL motor in 6 turn over 2 years ago in a TC3. That's the same Kontronik motor as the first generation (purple/small diameter) Hacker motors. I also got to see one of the earliest samples of the 2nd generation Hacker's last year at the Hitec Race. So, I'm well aware of the those motors, but I have my reasons; thanks for the heads up tho! Peace!
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