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Old 01-09-2009, 04:52 PM   #541
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Where do you buy parts for yours s120?

Do you know online shop anywhere in the world where are all spare and tuning parts instock or they can very fast get them?
http://www.ashfordhobby.com/

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/
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01/06/09 1/12th Scale Min Weight
The ROAR Executive Committee has approved the request to increase the 1/12th scale min weight, rule 8.10.3.1, from 794gr to 865gr for the 2009 ROAR On Road Carpet Nationals, hosted by The Gate at the Holiday Inn in Strongsville, OH.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:58 PM   #543
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Sorry for little offtopic but according to this information from serpent.com :

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Serpent S120 improved and more complete (17/12/2008)

By:
Ronald Baar
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Serpent S120 1/12th scale


The Serpent S120 has made a very strong introduction on race-tracks around the world.

The new look with the one-piece machined rear pod, the unique central monoshock, the adjustable t-bar tweak-station with blades and the fully adjustable front end has brought a lot of innovations to 1/12.

A few area's needed some improvement and that has been taken care of now.
- improved T-bar design
- improved rear shaft

Now as standard in the kit 3 degree, 6 degree and 9 degree front blocks !!

In the process are now more flexible body-posts front and kingpins with allen key adjustment. Will be released as soon as ready and will then flow into kit-production too.




Serpent S120
Ready to race.
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I'd like to ask serpent company if they would like to say something to people that bought first version s120 which was far from perfect?
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Old 01-11-2009, 07:26 PM   #544
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Tral:

It looks that you haven't read the whole tread. Serpent had discussed all this issues and responded to the clients that bought the S120. At least in US, Serpent America had solve some issues under warranty, I recomend to contact the people were you bought the car and check with them.
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Tral:

It looks that you haven't read the whole tread. Serpent had discussed all this issues and responded to the clients that bought the S120. At least in US, Serpent America had solve some issues under warranty, I recomend to contact the people were you bought the car and check with them.

Unfortunately not in middle east of europe where i live.
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Hey guys, I just got a S120 kit and a few of the spare parts and I have a few issues. The first issue is with the spare t-bars I got. It seems that the kit comes with 2 2.0mm thick t-bars, one with the holes counter sunk and one without. The spare t-bars I got do not have counter sunk holes. What is the part number for the new t-bars? Will the older t-bars still work and if so is there any modification that needs to be made? My other issue is with the front King Pin that screws into the steering block. For some odd reason it doesn't fit in the bottom pivot ball in the bottom arm. Is anyone else having this problem? Other than that the car is money!!!
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CarbonJoe - I think I'm going to get one of these. Are there any spare/tuning parts I should buy at the time I buy the kit.

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Hey guys, I just got a S120 kit and a few of the spare parts and I have a few issues. The first issue is with the spare t-bars I got. It seems that the kit comes with 2 2.0mm thick t-bars, one with the holes counter sunk and one without. The spare t-bars I got do not have counter sunk holes. What is the part number for the new t-bars? Will the older t-bars still work and if so is there any modification that needs to be made? My other issue is with the front King Pin that screws into the steering block. For some odd reason it doesn't fit in the bottom pivot ball in the bottom arm. Is anyone else having this problem? Other than that the car is money!!!
yes, i got the same kit as you. it looks like the pivot ball ID is 3.04mm while the kingpin is diameter is 1/8" or 0.125" or 3.18mm. i ground the pin down just to get the thing assembled, but this can't be what serpent really intended for a $300 pan car.

what servo have you tried to install? i used a 3650 per this thread's suggestion and can't get it centered and still get a good hold of the servo (the holes are spaced apart too much) and the holes are symmetrically drilled. (the same problem occurs if you flip the servo)

i installed the countersunk tbar and deferred experiments with the 'new' bar.
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I tried to use Airtronics 94145 and KoPropo 949 without success.
Is is impossible to mount them in the center using factory servo posts.
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Hey guys, I just got a S120 kit and a few of the spare parts and I have a few issues. The first issue is with the spare t-bars I got. It seems that the kit comes with 2 2.0mm thick t-bars, one with the holes counter sunk and one without. The spare t-bars I got do not have counter sunk holes. What is the part number for the new t-bars? Will the older t-bars still work and if so is there any modification that needs to be made? My other issue is with the front King Pin that screws into the steering block. For some odd reason it doesn't fit in the bottom pivot ball in the bottom arm. Is anyone else having this problem? Other than that the car is money!!!

Hey Teacher, about the T plates, there is one with countersunk hole an another without. The one without is the latest one. They both work, but one is stronger than the other.

About the King Pin, the factory is already fixing this. For the time being you could also use AE pivot balls, until we get the correct king pins.


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CarbonJoe - I think I'm going to get one of these. Are there any spare/tuning parts I should buy at the time I buy the kit.
Fuzzy -

I ordered a few extra thin T-plates, a few of the complete front arm "sets" (cheaper than buying individual pieces). Also consider the TiNi coated shock shafts, monoshock shaft, front hinge pins. The TiNi kingpins seem to be out of stock everywhere.
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yes, i got the same kit as you. it looks like the pivot ball ID is 3.04mm while the kingpin is diameter is 1/8" or 0.125" or 3.18mm. i ground the pin down just to get the thing assembled, but this can't be what serpent really intended for a $300 pan car.

what servo have you tried to install? i used a 3650 per this thread's suggestion and can't get it centered and still get a good hold of the servo (the holes are spaced apart too much) and the holes are symmetrically drilled. (the same problem occurs if you flip the servo)

i installed the countersunk tbar and deferred experiments with the 'new' bar.
Hello AVS, sorry to hear about the King Pin issue. The factory is already fixing this. For the time being you could also use AE pivot balls, until we get the correct king pins.
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My first time out with the S120 and it was dialed! Running the same motor, ESC, tires, and battery packs on the same track as with my CRC GenX, my fast lap time dropped from 10.02 with the GenX down to a 9.67 with the S120. The S120 was very easy to drive, and consistent, with a 9.68 fast lap in the main. This car carries very good corner speed.

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Hello AVS, sorry to hear about the King Pin issue. The factory is already fixing this. For the time being you could also use AE pivot balls, until we get the correct king pins.
Yes, King pins has to be 2mm shorter. I had to dremel them shorter. For clearance of the rim. If tighten down it would bind the pivot ball, just by out of roundness, not by KP in contact with the pvot ball. E-clip 3mm in manual too large, can use 2.5mm, clip has play works fine, could go 2mm E-Clip for tighter fit. I use the .5 shims(anadized Orange) to seat the e-clip and frt spring, then just the e-clip.

Othrwise, The model is easy to aassemble. Just a bit of QC should be looked at. New model querks we find.
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Hey guys, I just got a S120 kit and a few of the spare parts and I have a few issues. The first issue is with the spare t-bars I got. It seems that the kit comes with 2 2.0mm thick t-bars, one with the holes counter sunk and one without. The spare t-bars I got do not have counter sunk holes. What is the part number for the new t-bars? Will the older t-bars still work and if so is there any modification that needs to be made? My other issue is with the front King Pin that screws into the steering block. For some odd reason it doesn't fit in the bottom pivot ball in the bottom arm. Is anyone else having this problem? Other than that the car is money!!!
You can use the older countersunk t-bars without problem. For added strength when using the countersunk t-bars, flip them upside down and use the flat head screws. It helps because it removes the added pressure from the countersunk screw.
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