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Old 04-16-2018, 02:15 PM
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So after all, have anyone built a competitive FWD to race in USGT? I have a MTS FWD V2 weight about 1280g, but I am still hesitate to race with it.
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So after all, have anyone built a competitive FWD to race in USGT? I have a MTS FWD V2 weight about 1280g, but I am still hesitate to race with it.

That thing is a PIG! :-)

I have mine down to 1199 but havenít raced it yet! I would think the larger more sweeping the track you might have a chance. The tighter the track the 4WD seem like they would eat you (us) up...
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Large flowing tracks a light FWD can compete with the 4wds. I've run my mts ff pro in uagt and I have mine down to 1100 grams. It gets killed on tight tracks but if it's open and flowing it kicks as.
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Originally Posted by patorz31 View Post
Large flowing tracks a light FWD can compete with the 4wds. I've run my mts ff pro in uagt and I have mine down to 1100 grams. It gets killed on tight tracks but if it's open and flowing it kicks as.
Now mine is a pig! I just used the lightest electronics I could find. Did you change out screws or remove anything to make it that lite
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Titanium everything and left out some of the posts. I'm also using a light lcg shorty battery. With a Tamiya lightweight body.
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Originally Posted by rcguyfpr View Post
So after all, have anyone built a competitive FWD to race in USGT? I have a MTS FWD V2 weight about 1280g, but I am still hesitate to race with it.
That's what i'm trying to do. My FF03 is lighter than that though... I'm at 1240g, and that's before I started throwing aluminum screws at it.
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Originally Posted by patorz31 View Post
Titanium everything and left out some of the posts. I'm also using a light lcg shorty battery. With a Tamiya lightweight body.
Courious... what lightweight tamiya body fits the FWD well?
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Courious... what lightweight tamiya body fits the FWD well?
its the Scirocco
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Originally Posted by patorz31 View Post
Large flowing tracks a light FWD can compete with the 4wds. I've run my mts ff pro in uagt and I have mine down to 1100 grams. It gets killed on tight tracks but if it's open and flowing it kicks as.
Yes I agreed about the tight track or switchback turn yes it is hurting for front wheel drive..to keep up 4wd...you have to drive into the corner without loosing corner speed..

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Light is not always faster. Last weekend I tried a long lipo (280gr) in stead of the normal shorty (200gr) in the MTSFF03 and it felt slower on the track. But the lap times showed that with the extra weight I was about 0.5 sec/lap faster ! Also the heavy Tamiya Scirocco made the car much more planted than the lighter Montech Fiesta, not in individual lap times, but with the Scirocco I can drive more consistant.
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Light is not always faster. Last weekend I tried a long lipo (280gr) in stead of the normal shorty (200gr) in the MTSFF03 and it felt slower on the track. But the lap times showed that with the extra weight I was about 0.5 sec/lap faster ! Also the heavy Tamiya Scirocco made the car much more planted than the lighter Montech Fiesta, not in individual lap times, but with the Scirocco I can drive more consistant.
That's something I've run into before. I believe that's rooted in the higher CG that comes with lower weight... But I think that can be overcome.
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Now mine is a pig! I just used the lightest electronics I could find. Did you change out screws or remove anything to make it that lite
here was mine with usgt trim and a full size lipo

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I have a FF03 its a good car but 4wd cars just work better in most conditions. I would like to see a FWD class become a reality. Back 20 years ago the British touring car series had to limit the 4WD Audi because it had a unfair advantage , Its no different in RC cars
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I have a FF03 its a good car but 4wd cars just work better in most conditions. I would like to see a FWD class become a reality. Back 20 years ago the British touring car series had to limit the 4WD Audi because it had a unfair advantage , Its no different in RC cars
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Originally Posted by Lone Drifter View Post
I have a FF03 its a good car but 4wd cars just work better in most conditions. I would like to see a FWD class become a reality. Back 20 years ago the British touring car series had to limit the 4WD Audi because it had a unfair advantage , Its no different in RC cars
There's good reason why 4wd is the thing for on road racing. That doesn't make me want to stop trying with a FWD platform. I'm still thinking of crazy methods for dropping yet more weight off my car. And.. I think I next need to look at downforce. CG matters less if you can just ignore gravity. :-)
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