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Old 01-30-2008, 10:50 AM   #31
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After reading the whole Core 5000 thread and your response I completely understand, thanks. I have an ICE charger so if I would want to balance the batt I would have to purchase an inline device to effectively do so. Im assuming I will be able to use the Team Orion stability balancing system.
The orion batts have a different connection so you would need a different connector to hook it up. I use an electrify inline balancer that is similar to the orion one and their replaceable 2s connector is a match.

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Old 01-30-2008, 12:33 PM   #32
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Ok now Im a bit confused. On Nexus Racing it states that "When using with Orion Lipo batteries, you must modify the plug to use 2mm and 4mm Gold Connectors:" and goes on to say that this balancer has the JST EH Type balancer connection, what type of connector does the Core 5000 have?
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Seen the Core run , nothing that a Carbon 3200 can`t handle , Carbon 3600 is the fastest Li-Po pack I`v seen @Trcr so far ....

well seeing how i'm the only person to run a core at trcr, and i was winning the stock main until i broke and i haven't done off road except for twice in the past year, i wouldn't expect ME to be the top performer.

besides its off road, power doesn't really matter there.
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I'm glad the schue guys are happy with the core battery but the 3 I tried (Randy & Brett's packs) as well as the RCE branded version (Franko's) simply did not perform. For me the Orion 3600 has proved itself best out of all I have run. It is possible that the 4 I tried are not as good as the 2 Skypilot got but even if his AND Jaybee's are exceptional I would be reluctant to buy a $125 pack where only 50% perform well.

Ritchie I appreciate your offer to try one of your core packs but I have switched from the TC5 to an x-ray and the core's hard shell would have to be modified to fit my new car. For now I am going to focus on trying thinner packs that fit the sedan without modification only, All my thick packs (tp4900 & trinity 4500) have been sold.

For those curios about my test sample sizes I have run 4ea of the Orion 3200, core/rce 5K, 2 Orion 3600 and 1ea of the tp4900 & trinity 4500.

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Old 01-30-2008, 03:54 PM   #35
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Ok now Im a bit confused. On Nexus Racing it states that "When using with Orion Lipo batteries, you must modify the plug to use 2mm and 4mm Gold Connectors:" and goes on to say that this balancer has the JST EH Type balancer connection, what type of connector does the Core 5000 have?
The Core has a JST-EH connector on it, most chargers with balancer ports seem to have JST-XH connectors, I use this;


The 'bottom' connector goes into my charger.

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All my testing has been in 10.5 sedan on a carpet track running simple a/b comparisons. Lap times for the middle tier packs I have tried were all the same but did produce different power bands and needed slightly different gearing to get the most out of them.

The 3600 was a full .1s faster than the middle tier packs from the start and fell off less over a 6min run, the power difference was great enough to be seen.

The core packs have all been extremely flat with no bottom or top end and ran nearly .2s off the 3600. With all the hype surrounding these batts I had expected them to be nothing short of exceptional and was certainly disappointed with performance I got.

Locally several other experienced racers that bought the core packs have had similar results and switched to others.

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Dude you're clearly outta touch with that statement. I race with Mark, and even though we don't see eye2eye on this one, don't make blanket statements about folks YOU DON'T KNOW. He has PLENTY of experience & skills
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I have found that the Core 5000 are soft when cold like 50deg F ,but if you warm them up to 100deg F they Rock .

IMO: I still think My orion 3600 have better punch then the core 5000 even with Both heated to 100deg F after second charge of the day same chassis and ballanced to TCS weight of 1550 grams.
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Try to prove um wrong , your such a expert....
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I have found that the Core 5000 are soft when cold like 50deg F ,but if you warm them up to 100deg F they Rock .

IMO: I still think My orion 3600 have better punch then the core 5000 even with Both heated to 100deg F after second charge of the day same chassis and ballanced to TCS weight of 1550 grams.
I haven't tried preheating the packs yet, what method are you using? Linger mentioned using the wrap style tire warmers with a voltage control set to 8V checking to ensure the pack doesn't exceed 150F.

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Don`t think a warmer is necessary, just run the pack for practice
and recharge ..

The heat from practice is good enough....
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I haven't tried preheating the packs yet, what method are you using? Linger mentioned using the wrap style tire warmers with a voltage control set to 8V checking to ensure the pack doesn't exceed 150F.

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I read a lot of articles about heat and Lipo's. Most of the "experts" including a test lab said that 120F is when you start to hurt cell life, they also said charging below 50 can hurt packs as well
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I have found that the Core 5000 are soft when cold like 50deg F ,but if you warm them up to 100deg F they Rock .

IMO: I still think My orion 3600 have better punch then the core 5000 even with Both heated to 100deg F after second charge of the day same chassis and ballanced to TCS weight of 1550 grams.

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I have found that the Core 5000 are soft when cold like 50deg F ,but if you warm them up to 100deg F they Rock .

IMO: I still think My orion 3600 have better punch then the core 5000 even with Both heated to 100deg F after second charge of the day same chassis and ballanced to TCS weight of 1550 grams.

if your not gonna run the core, i'll give you 40 bucks for it, maybe less seeing how its been "heated". i'll have to check it out.
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if your not gonna run the core, i'll give you 40 bucks for it, maybe less seeing how its been "heated". i'll have to check it out.
The core Rocks when heated (NOT OVERHEATED) and no you can not have my Hot Cores Besides I am going to use them for Mod at FW This summer being that they fit the 007 perfectly

I have been using a muchmore Battery warming tray and charger for warming the packs and it takes about an hour and a half to heat just one up to 85 deg F
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