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Old 02-10-2008, 07:13 PM   #481
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not exactly bro. It has more of the slaphammer effect than anything. The added weight also makes it harder for the front to set at the end of the straight.


Jason why would you have a slaphammer effect ? We didnt have it before. Car would set fine, you just may encounter a twitchy feeling ( quicker reacting, agressive) but that can fine tuned out. On my Quad 12 I run the batteries in the rear most position, as I used to when we ran 10th scale.
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:14 PM   #482
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I will be going into production this week with a target release sometime early march. I have decided to keep the price at 300 or less. I have not figured the price yet but i will keep it at or under 300. It is a 200mm car and will not include tires in the kit. Tire compound will depend on the racing surface and it is very hard to decide what to include being that it will always be different.

Thanks for the compliments buddy
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:21 PM   #483
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Jason why would you have a slaphammer effect ? We didnt have it before. Car would set fine, you just may encounter a twitchy feeling ( quicker reacting, agressive) but that can fine tuned out. On my Quad 12 I run the batteries in the rear most position, as I used to when we ran 10th scale.
The days of 6 cell racing in 1/10th pancars were when the motors were much slower and cells didnt weigh as much. In 4 cell 1/12th you are working with much less weight and a shorter wheelbase so this is not a problem in 1/12th. With todays motors and cells, they just weigh too much and once the car gets into a corner,the momentum wants to cary the rear around. TC does OK with it because of the 4wd but if you snip the front belt and run it RWD only you will see what i mean. With the amount of rubber,power in the motors and wieght of the electronics(especially with brushless), 4 cell has been clearly the better handling setup when we tested. 6 cell wasnt bad but 4 cell mod as opposed to 6 cell stock,4 cell proved to transition faster,drive deeper into the corners,and carry more corner speed than 6 cell in every test. I see no need for it when lipo 7.4 can give us the same voltage as 6 cell at the weight of the better handling 4 cell.
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:47 PM   #484
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Jason why would you have a slaphammer effect ? We didnt have it before. Car would set fine, you just may encounter a twitchy feeling ( quicker reacting, agressive) but that can fine tuned out. On my Quad 12 I run the batteries in the rear most position, as I used to when we ran 10th scale.
The 10R has gone through 3 different lower chassis. We started with the batts as far back as possible. Every time we tested a chassis we would move them forward and the car got faster.

Today we ran the car in the pic (prototype #3) vs. my prototype #2 with the electronics up front and the batts back 30mm and the car in the pics was clearly better.

Keep in mind that the 1/10 chassis is a lot longer than a 1/12 chassis and to maintain the proper weight distribution the batts would have to move forward.

Also by moving the electronics behind the battery its almost the same as the batts being further back but you get much better motor and battery wiring.
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:22 PM   #485
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I have ordered The CRC and Now Just waiting on the BMI !

Here are pictures of the Chassis I have been testing for a few months now.

We have made a total of 6 lower Chassis and others parts as well.

This Chassis or Car has been in the works for almost 2 years from what I am told it is a 200mm Pan Car as well and not from any of companies that have been talked about here.

I have run the HPI Corvette body 200mm and the Mustang Cobra 200mm and others it works good with most 200mm bodies.

I for one can't wait to test them all, and as well as race them when the class starts.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:14 PM   #486
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I will be going into production this week with a target release sometime early march. I have decided to keep the price at 300 or less. I have not figured the price yet but i will keep it at or under 300. It is a 200mm car and will not include tires in the kit. Tire compound will depend on the racing surface and it is very hard to decide what to include being that it will always be different.

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Old 02-11-2008, 10:05 AM   #487
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Well now that we have our first cars hitting the market when are we going to start hearing reports from some of you guys (well other than Jason, Adrian and Marcos) running these cars. I like Grenade's idea for 4 cell 17.5 for GT. I think that LiPo and 17.5 would be workable as well. As I said before, we can't totally forget about the 235mm GTP cars because those cars really were the backbone of 10th scale pan car racing. I think having the option of 200mm or 235mm for tracks would help not only keep the guys that ran GTP in it, but itd also give an option for guys just coming into 10th pan racing with the 200mm GT
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Bill and Rocky have run them- 4 cell and 13.5. And we will for the rest of the year. His car is a 200mm Associated and mine is a 200mm RJSpeed.
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Old 02-11-2008, 06:53 PM   #489
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Dale, Gary and other Body producers.. What are your thoughts on a separate rear wing (like the real cars) instead of a molded in thing like days gone by. Is one cheaper than the other, which one would benefit the long term need to help keep the cars driveable yet not crazy fast.. and I mean nothing as huge as a TC wing!
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:44 PM   #490
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I'm getting the 200mm Darkside ready to roll with 4 cell and 19 turn. Need to get a good GT body. I'd like a Porsche GT1, just need to go looking. I'll have it ready to run at our track on the 24th.

I'm running my Corally 235 this week, so it should be a good comparison.
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I just noticed that a Tamiya f103 is 200mm. Since they are a 200mm pan car, looks like it'll do! I'm going to start dusting them off!
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I just ran an F103 with a canam body in Pro10 at the New Zealand Electric nationals that just happened this weekend, I put some of my spare corally sp12x ceramic balls in it, and ran a normal spur gear with the spur gear adapter, and the diff felt almost as good as my corally diff which is surprising, it was the first time i've run that chassis for about 4 years, and it was very fun with 6 cells and a mod motor in it . I should have some video of it on rcracer.co.nz soon as well as vids of modified, stock etc.
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cant wait to get one, i really hope they run gt type bodies ONLY and leave the 200mm dna's , and stratus's out of this class. i think this class would be a lot more fun if we leave the tc bodies on the tc's. go to a big race you could'nt run a gt body on a tc so i think you shouldnt be able to run tc bodies on the 1/10th scale. i think this class would be lots of if we dont intermingle the two classes...........................
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cant wait to get one, i really hope they run gt type bodies ONLY and leave the 200mm dna's , and stratus's out of this class. i think this class would be a lot more fun if we leave the tc bodies on the tc's. go to a big race you could'nt run a gt body on a tc so i think you shouldnt be able to run tc bodies on the 1/10th scale. i think this class would be lots of if we dont intermingle the two classes...........................
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RB, didnt they try to get a 10th pan class going at the Gate at one point?

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