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Old 06-28-2003, 08:25 PM   #106
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From earlier today, the results after round three:

[pre]2003 ROAR Paved On-Road Electric Nationals

Qualifying, Round 3

Touring Car Modified (55 total)

1. Mark Pavidis 0 pts
2. Barry Baker 0 pts
3. Matt Francis 2 pts
4. David Jun 2 pts
5. Billy Easton 2 pts
6. Paul Lemieux 3 pts
7. Greg Hodapp 3 pts
8. Ralph Burch, Jr. 4 pts
9. Josh Cyrul 5 pts
10. Mike Blackstock 6 pts

Touring Car Stock (52 total)

1. Mike Dunnigan 0 pts
2. Scotty Ersnt 0 pts
3. Kevin Mitchell 2 pts
4. Alex Lopez 2 pts
5. Mo Denton 3 pts
6. Michael Patterson 3 pts
7. Billy Spence 4 pts
8. Brad Johnson 4 pts
9. Todd Malone 6 pts
10. Michael Bruce 6 pts

12th Scale Modified (14 total)

1. Josh Cyrul 0 pts
2. Dave Vera 0 pts
3. Chris Doesck 3 pts
4. Walter Henderson 3 pts
5. Michael Bruce 4 pts
6. Fred Kellner 5 pts
7. Paul Lemieux 5 pts
8. Greg Anthony 6 pts
9. Chris Cash 7 pts
10. Adam Hartzel 8 pts

12th Scale Stock (17 total)

1. Billy Spence 0 pts
2. Shad Galante 0 pts
3. Mo Denton 2 pts
4. Mike Dunnigan 3 pts
5. John Tortorice 3 pts
6. Rob Michael 4 pts
7. Hector Garcia 5 pts
8. Scotty Ernst 5 pts
9. Rafael Angulo 7 pts
10. Mark Strasnik 7 pts[/pre]


That's it for round 3. Read the next message for the A Mains.
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Old 06-28-2003, 08:27 PM   #107
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And the ones that really matter, the lineups for the AAA mains that will be run tomorrow (Sunday).

[pre]2003 ROAR Paved On-Road Electric Nationals

Qualifying, Round 4 (A Mains)

A-Main, Touring Car Modified (55 total)

1. Mark Pavidis
2. Barry Baker
3. Ralph Burch, Jr.
4. Matt Francis
5. David Jun
6. Billy Easton
7. Paul Lemieux
8. Greg Hodapp
9. Josh Cyrul
10. Mike Blackstock

A-Main, Touring Car Stock (52 total)

1. Mike Dunnigan
2. Alex Lopez
3. Scotty Ernst
4. Kevin Mitchell
5. Mo Denton
6. Michael Patterson
7. Billy Spence
8. Brad Johnson
9. Michael Bruce
10. Todd Malone

A-Main, 12th Scale Modified (14 total)

1. Josh Cyrul
2. Dave Vera
3. Walter Henderson
4. Chris Doseck
5. Michael Bruce
6. Fred Kellner
7. Paul Lemieux
8. John Albright
9. Greg Anthony
10. Chris Cash

A-Main, 12th Scale Stock (17 total)

1. Mike Dunnigan
2. Billy Spence
3. Shad Galante
4. Mo Denton
5. Todd Malone
6. John Tortorice
7. Rob Michael
8. Scotty Ernst
9. Hector Garcia
10. Mark Strasnik[/pre]


That's it for the A mains. As for a complete list of all mains, nope, I don't have it. See my earlier posts regarding Autoscore and other problems.

Hope this gives some good insight on what's going on. Will try to have better coverage next time...
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Old 06-28-2003, 08:43 PM   #108
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I see Mike D was laying it down in stock 12th scale and Stock sedan. Way to go Mike.

Damn not Chris Tossilini in the A main. I guess his Yoke didn't have it today.
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Old 06-28-2003, 09:11 PM   #109
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Go Mike D and Billy Spence

Anyone know where Craig X, Adrew Gray, Mark Unrath are at?
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Old 06-28-2003, 09:48 PM   #110
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Cool....

2 Corally SP12M's in the 1/12 mod A main (2 & 5) and 3 in 1/12 Stock A main (3, 5 & 7). Also looks like one of the Assassin's made the A main touring stock (9).

Good luck to everyone tomorrow....

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Old 06-28-2003, 10:05 PM   #111
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In the B..
9 - Craig X
10 - Adrew Gray

Mark is B in stock too...
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Old 06-29-2003, 06:45 AM   #112
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will people post the cars the stock/mod guys are driving. if you know?
stock
lopez x-ray
earnst tc3
mitchell losi?
malone tc3
bruce corally assasin

1/12
galante corally
malone corally
michael corally
earnst 12l3

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cyrul trinity
vera corally
bruce corally
dosek trinity
lemiux trinity

mod touring
most know all of these
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Old 06-29-2003, 07:38 AM   #113
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I'm pretty sure Michael Patterson is running a X-Ray in stock TC. Qualified 6th.


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Old 06-29-2003, 07:43 AM   #114
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It there are any assasians in the stock class they are doing so against the rules. Cars/parts must be readily availabe 14 days prior to the start of the event to be used in stock class.

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Old 06-29-2003, 07:48 AM   #115
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when was rcx? they had the car there. michael bruce has always ran corally, it was my assumption that he would be running the new car. i may be wrong.
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Old 06-29-2003, 08:09 AM   #116
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Keep it up you Florida
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k. mitchell is running Losi
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Old 06-29-2003, 09:30 AM   #117
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Has anyone else noticed this. Looking at the points after round 3 we had this.

1. Mike Dunnigan 0 pts
2. Scotty Ersnt 0 pts
3. Kevin Mitchell 2 pts
4. Alex Lopez 2 pts

Looking at the main setup we have this.

1. Mike Dunnigan
2. Alex Lopez
3. Scotty Ernst
4. Kevin Mitchell

Now looking at this one would have to assume that Mike Dunnigan got another 0 points. But with both Scotty and Mike having 0 points how did Alex sneak up in between them? Where did Alex get his 0 points? Don't get me wrong as all of these guys can wheel a car but I am just trying to figure out the point system here.

Here is another example after round 3.

1. Billy Spence 0 pts
2. Shad Galante 0 pts
3. Mo Denton 2 pts
4. Mike Dunnigan 3 pts

Mains

1. Mike Dunnigan
2. Billy Spence
3. Shad Galante
4. Mo Denton

Are they only taking your best 1 run and how you finished and seating the mains? I thought it was your best 2 and then if there was a tie breaker they would go to total laps or something like that.

Thoughts?
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Mo Denton is Speedmerchant for 12th scale and Schumacher for sedan.
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Mike D.... 12th IRS, 1/10 TC3
Billy Spnece 12th 12L3, 1/10 TC3
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This is for futureal or anyone else who is there and can get a look at the quals and study it??

I am curious how the new point system is working. Yes, it's a new one. From what I can gather, it's almost a rocket round. Out of 4 quals, you get your best points, 0, 2, 3, 4 and that is your position. If a tie, they go to your times-14/5:01.01, 14/5:01.02, etc...that's what I was told.
You could get 4 TQ's with 0 pts...

At the end of the day, if there are 4 racers with 4 pts, do they all then take the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, position automatically? Even if there is one or two racers with 5 pts that have faster times?

It seems it took us so long to figure out the 2 quals=best times. Why did they change it? It is basically a rocket round, kinda. I thought the idea was to make sure there was some kind of consistency to their abilities.

Also, a lot of the racers didn't know about this change. Those that had participated in the other nats...off road, or whatever previously, knew about it. There wasn't a big announcement, so some folks were thinking in terms of the old format.

I'm not sure there is one easy format, to make it good for all, but I would just like to understand it better.
Anyone there have time to check on it?
And it's a real shame there isn't more info anywhere!

I just found their website-- www.thercspeedway.com has the mains posted.

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