2008 Roar onroad carpet nats
#526
#528
#530
Tech Elite
Roar Approved Brushless Motor List
Brushless Motor Approval List
Type Importer MFG Description Approval Date
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band 3/28/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC 9/19/2005
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands 9/19/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor 7/1/2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless w/sintered motor 7/1/2007
Modified Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro 2/5/2008
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Comp Series 13835 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Trinity Trinity TRI102xx 2/27/2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Super Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 13.5T *2/27/2008*
* Conditional approval until 5/31/08. See ROAR website news section for more details.
Last edited by Dawn Sanchez; 02-28-2008 at 08:51 AM.
#532
Tech Elite
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Roar Approved Brushless Motor List
Brushless Motor Approval List
Type Importer MFG Description Approval Date
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band 3/28/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC 9/19/2005
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands 9/19/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor 7/1/2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless w/sintered motor 7/1/2007
Super Stock Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro 2/5/2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Comp Series 13835 (any wind) 2/25/2008
* Conditional approval until 5/31/08. See ROAR website news section for more details.
Brushless Motor Approval List
Type Importer MFG Description Approval Date
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band 3/28/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC 9/19/2005
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands 9/19/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor 7/1/2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless w/sintered motor 7/1/2007
Super Stock Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro 2/5/2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Comp Series 13835 (any wind) 2/25/2008
* Conditional approval until 5/31/08. See ROAR website news section for more details.
#533
The Evicerator
I don't believe the modified rules call out wire sizes so I don't see why they wouldn't be allowed... I guess we would need to get clarification on this from Dawn...?
#534
Tech Elite
#536
Tech Elite
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Roar Approved Brushless Motor List
Brushless Motor Approval List
Type Importer MFG Description Approval Date
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band 3/28/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC 9/19/2005
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands 9/19/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor 7/1/2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless w/sintered motor 7/1/2007
Modified Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro 2/5/2008
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Comp Series 13835 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Trinity Trinity TRI102xx 2/27/2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Super Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 13.5T *2/27/2008*
* Conditional approval until 5/31/08. See ROAR website news section for more details.
Brushless Motor Approval List
Type Importer MFG Description Approval Date
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band 3/28/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC 9/19/2005
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands 9/19/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor 7/1/2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless w/sintered motor 7/1/2007
Modified Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro 2/5/2008
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Comp Series 13835 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Trinity Trinity TRI102xx 2/27/2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Super Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 13.5T *2/27/2008*
* Conditional approval until 5/31/08. See ROAR website news section for more details.
I see it's approved for modified but not Super Stock. Maybe I'm interpreting the list incorrectly??
Thanks
#537
Tech Regular
From what I am being told, The 10.5T motors do not have a winding spec so they will be considered a MOD motor. The so called "Super Stock" class will be 13.5T for future races. The 10.5T motor will be a "Super Stock" at the ROAR nats. As long as there is a MOD motor listed under the approval i imagine the 10.5 version will be legal.
#538
Tech Elite
Per the 2008 nationals rules and nationals guidelines, Super Stock class may have no lower in wind than 10.5 for competition in 2008. And, 19T brushed motors can be used in the Super Stock class.
For 2009 and beyond, the Super Stock class is 13.5 only, no brushed.
The list reflects 10.5 as modified as those motors fall under the modified rules and specifications. ROAR is allowing 10.5 in the super stock class this year only as a transition into brushless motors into this class only.
Kyle is right, as long as their is a modified counterpart on the list from a MFG, the 10.5 is legal. Although, to ensure everybody understands this, we are requesting 10.5's be submitted so we are able to data log the inductance readings and post them on the list to avoid confusion.
(looks like we failed the no confusion part... LOL)
For 2009 and beyond, the Super Stock class is 13.5 only, no brushed.
The list reflects 10.5 as modified as those motors fall under the modified rules and specifications. ROAR is allowing 10.5 in the super stock class this year only as a transition into brushless motors into this class only.
Kyle is right, as long as their is a modified counterpart on the list from a MFG, the 10.5 is legal. Although, to ensure everybody understands this, we are requesting 10.5's be submitted so we are able to data log the inductance readings and post them on the list to avoid confusion.
(looks like we failed the no confusion part... LOL)
#539
The Evicerator
Dawn,
Thanks for the clarification on the "mod is mod" ruling... I just have one thing to clear up so that it doesn't come up later...
The listing refers to our motors as "bare aluminum with purple ring" ... Our lightweight motor line comes with a blue band and we also sell aftermarket blue and black rings... All of which are cosmetic only.
I just want to make sure someone at the race doesn't get caught up on the color of a costmetic ring and cause us all an un-needed headache.
Thanks for the clarification on the "mod is mod" ruling... I just have one thing to clear up so that it doesn't come up later...
The listing refers to our motors as "bare aluminum with purple ring" ... Our lightweight motor line comes with a blue band and we also sell aftermarket blue and black rings... All of which are cosmetic only.
I just want to make sure someone at the race doesn't get caught up on the color of a costmetic ring and cause us all an un-needed headache.
Last edited by Steve Weiss; 02-28-2008 at 04:06 PM.
#540
Tech Elite
If the description has changed, please send an email to David Lee, [email protected] , so we can make that change if applicable and per the rules. (Or have Bob send it.)
Thanks for the heads up....