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Old 09-15-2015, 04:17 AM
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Eric, if you have plenty of grip on the track surface or with your tyres, try using the stock plastic 0 degree rear hubs.
They will make the rear rotate quicker when you come into a corner/give you more steering, should give you a bit more top end, the trade off is a lack of straight line stability.
You can adjust the front to have a bit more toe out to gain some stability back.
I have used 0 toe on a grippy track in hot weather and it worked well, but most of the time I just use 2 degree plastic toe in, or 2 degree alloy toe in.

As you mentioned in your post, there is definitely a sweet spot in regards to camber. Some tyres it's 1 degree negative, others it's 2 degree negative, or anywhere in between, it's something you'll have to play with to get right for your tyre and track conditions. If you're using the adjustable upper links on the rear, even a 0.1 or 0.2 shim can make all the difference in finding that sweet spot.
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Can anyone give me guide on sway bar setup on the M05?
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Hi Toon

Apologies if already dealt with - I have been running the Tamiya Flouride coated (F201) Pinion in my first Mini since 2005, with zero wear issues. Fitted that same part on my next two Mini's as well and see no reason to change, despite the excellent Robinson and Carlson pinions:

53509 Hardened Pinion

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Originally Posted by 32819toon
Can someone tell me which steel pinions to use on the M03 ?
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Originally Posted by Emaculant
Can anyone give me guide on sway bar setup on the M05?
What kind of tires and shocks settings are you running and traction level?

That will aid us in our responses.
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Just got back from the 2015 Tamiya Asia Cup held in Singapore. Sadly finished only 4th overall.

Here is A3, my car is the pacman, 3rd on the grid.

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Originally Posted by Emaculant
Can anyone give me guide on sway bar setup on the M05?
Are you asking how to install the sway bar? or setup advice, on how the car reacts?

Ill take a guess and presume you mean setup advice. Ill only speak on Carpet surface, so if your on asphalt, listen to one of the other asphalt gurus. Carpet is easy, put on a hard rear sway bar, and nothing on the front. We do this to get as much steering as possible, with the least amount of body roll on the rear. The rear sway bar really makes the front end do its job. I have not found a single instance that the front sway bar made a positive change. I prefer the front to roll, to work both front tires.
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Originally Posted by rccartips
Just got back from the 2015 Tamiya Asia Cup held in Singapore. Sadly finished only 4th overall.

Here is A3, my car is the pacman, 3rd on the grid.

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Time to retire
I really enjoyed your video. It was a great place to hold the race and promote the hobby.
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Originally Posted by 32819toon
Can someone tell me which steel pinions to use on the M03 ?
HPI makes those type of pinions.
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Originally Posted by bertrandsv87
You need to get tamiya steel 20t pinion gears only... They have a different pitch than the regular 48p gears... They are 48p metric, not 48p... The gearset number is (#50356).....
Thanks, I bought one of these. The 21t one is no use to me though !! I suppose it helps Tamiya sell parts, a one which fits the M chassis would have been more helpful.
Thanks to all who helped me with this,.
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Bert, those are aluminum gears, not steel. They're made of the same cheesy alloy as the kit stuff. Also, again, the gear pitch is 0.6 mod, not "metric 48p" as Robinson calls it. Just trying to avoid confusion, so we can all buy the good stuff.

Tamiya does offer a fluorine coated, hardened pinion that's quite good. Part number 53509.
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Originally Posted by axle182
Are you asking how to install the sway bar? or setup advice, on how the car reacts?

Ill take a guess and presume you mean setup advice. Ill only speak on Carpet surface, so if your on asphalt, listen to one of the other asphalt gurus. Carpet is easy, put on a hard rear sway bar, and nothing on the front. We do this to get as much steering as possible, with the least amount of body roll on the rear. The rear sway bar really makes the front end do its job. I have not found a single instance that the front sway bar made a positive change. I prefer the front to roll, to work both front tires.
Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I race on carpet inconsistent grip with S-grip tires. I'm not home but I have the adjustable shocks with I think orange and white springs. I will give your set up a try.
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Originally Posted by rccartips
Just got back from the 2015 Tamiya Asia Cup held in Singapore. Sadly finished only 4th overall.

Here is A3, my car is the pacman, 3rd on the grid.
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Good job driving, rccartips! That is one funny looking body, nice job.
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Originally Posted by Emaculant
Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I race on carpet inconsistent grip with S-grip tires. I'm not home but I have the adjustable shocks with I think orange and white springs. I will give your set up a try.
Ive posted this a few times, here is my setup.

Chassis Length - M
Body - Civic

FRONT
Spring - Red
Oil and Piston - 40wt Zero Rebound 3 hole
Ride Height - 5mm
Diff style and setup - 3 racing 500,000wt
Toe - 2 deg out
Top Arm hole - Top
Tire - S grip, Hard insert, Ca on the last 1mm on outside of tread.
Sauce - Full
Sway Bar - None

REAR
Spring - Blue
Oil and Piston - 40wt Zero Rebound 3 hole
Ride Height - 5mm
Camber - 1.5 deg
Toe - 2 deg
Top Arm hole - Low
Tire - S grip, Hard insert
Sauce - Full
Sway Bar - Hard

We run good grip carpet with tire sauce. If you are not allowed to run tire sauce your results could vary. Id suggest going to a softer spring front and back in that case. Let us know how it goes!
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Originally Posted by axle182
Ive posted this a few times, here is my setup.

Chassis Length - M
Body - Civic

FRONT
Spring - Red
Oil and Piston - 40wt Zero Rebound 3 hole
Ride Height - 5mm
Diff style and setup - 3 racing 500,000wt
Toe - 2 deg out
Top Arm hole - Top
Tire - S grip, Hard insert, Ca on the last 1mm on outside of tread.
Sauce - Full
Sway Bar - None

REAR
Spring - Blue
Oil and Piston - 40wt Zero Rebound 3 hole
Ride Height - 5mm
Camber - 1.5 deg
Toe - 2 deg
Top Arm hole - Low
Tire - S grip, Hard insert
Sauce - Full
Sway Bar - Hard

We run good grip carpet with tire sauce. If you are not allowed to run tire sauce your results could vary. Id suggest going to a softer spring front and back in that case. Let us know how it goes!
What would the front camber # be? Also droop setting?
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Originally Posted by godzukihop
What would the front camber # be? Also droop setting?
My apologies, I copied that from a long post from a while back.

Front Camber - 0-1 deg
Front Droop - 0-1mm
Rear Droop - 2-3mm
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