Foam Tires on Asphalt Setup? TC5
#1
Foam Tires on Asphalt Setup? TC5
I'm trying to get my TC5 setup with foam tires/asphalt for the track we have here in Las Vegas. It is prepped regularly and I just made the switch to foam (what a difference!). Before I switched tires I was using Ryan Cavalieri's setup sheet (Reedyrace 2007) for rubber/asphalt, but with the foam I'm guessing I can get a lot more out of my TC with a different suspension setup. Right now I'm using copper springs in the front and silver in the rear, with Jaco Prism dbl pink/orange fronts and lilac rears. If anyone can give me some tips (springs, oil, droop, etc) I'd really appreciate it! I'm new to on-road cars and haven't had any luck finding any setup info. Thanks in advance!
#2
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I'm trying to get my TC5 setup with foam tires/asphalt for the track we have here in Las Vegas. It is prepped regularly and I just made the switch to foam (what a difference!). Before I switched tires I was using Ryan Cavalieri's setup sheet (Reedyrace 2007) for rubber/asphalt, but with the foam I'm guessing I can get a lot more out of my TC with a different suspension setup. Right now I'm using copper springs in the front and silver in the rear, with Jaco Prism dbl pink/orange fronts and lilac rears. If anyone can give me some tips (springs, oil, droop, etc) I'd really appreciate it! I'm new to on-road cars and haven't had any luck finding any setup info. Thanks in advance!
Even die hard foam carpet guys are switching to rubber tires.
#3
Adrian we have never met but just reading your comments for the last few months makes me wonder why jason would ever hire a blohard like you? You can't be good for his business the way you shut down everyone's ideas, comments, and questions. I have come back to the sport after years away and I dropped TC because I like the way foam tires work, just maybe there are others that feel this way and instead of reading about how on road is thinning out people might start returning if you stopped telling everyone how they should be thinking.
#5
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Like robk mentioned you are better off running Nitro foams. They are made for asphalt and last longer. If you are racing at silver bowl i know tire wear is at .5 to .8 every 10min. for nitro sedans. Tire wear should be a lot better on a lighter electric car.....
As for setup just make sure you are running the right compound before messing to much with the suspension...
As for setup just make sure you are running the right compound before messing to much with the suspension...
#6
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Adrian we have never met but just reading your comments for the last few months makes me wonder why jason would ever hire a blohard like you? You can't be good for his business the way you shut down everyone's ideas, comments, and questions. I have come back to the sport after years away and I dropped TC because I like the way foam tires work, just maybe there are others that feel this way and instead of reading about how on road is thinning out people might start returning if you stopped telling everyone how they should be thinking.
There are a few issues that have been gone over and over ad nauseum and have been almost unanimously agreed upon that I put up short responses that you may interpret as being a blowhard.
A lot of people here know me pretty well and they will tell you that you have the wrong opinion of me.
FYI, If you want to know why MOST sedan racers are against foam on asphalt do a search for "Foam vs. Rubber" and set aside A LOT of time to read the thread.
#7
Tech Initiate
You could have a look at John Stranahan's thread Associated factory team TC5,Brushless,Lipo,Li-on nanophosphate,Tips and Tricks.He tried foam tires for a while with the TC5.Here in New Zealand we use foam tires (we are not allowed to use tire additives at all).I use Jaco nitro shoes 35 degrees front and rear normally.Rubber tires down here are only used in stock class racing.
#8
Yes I am running at the silverbowl, and everyone out here is using foam, but they are all nitro guys, I have yet to meet anyone running electric.
Thanks POPSO1! I just found the thread you mentioned and it has a ton of great info. AdrianM mentioned a thread, rubber vs. foam, but I did a search and couldn't find it. I ran my car twice with the foams and tire wear wasn't too bad, but the front tires outside edge was a little chewed up. I didn't measure them before and after, but next time I will. Thanks for your suggestions, and if anyone has a setup sheet they want to share I would appreciate it.
Thanks POPSO1! I just found the thread you mentioned and it has a ton of great info. AdrianM mentioned a thread, rubber vs. foam, but I did a search and couldn't find it. I ran my car twice with the foams and tire wear wasn't too bad, but the front tires outside edge was a little chewed up. I didn't measure them before and after, but next time I will. Thanks for your suggestions, and if anyone has a setup sheet they want to share I would appreciate it.
#9
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Yes I am running at the silverbowl, and everyone out here is using foam, but they are all nitro guys, I have yet to meet anyone running electric.
Thanks POPSO1! I just found the thread you mentioned and it has a ton of great info. AdrianM mentioned a thread, rubber vs. foam, but I did a search and couldn't find it. I ran my car twice with the foams and tire wear wasn't too bad, but the front tires outside edge was a little chewed up. I didn't measure them before and after, but next time I will. Thanks for your suggestions, and if anyone has a setup sheet they want to share I would appreciate it.
Thanks POPSO1! I just found the thread you mentioned and it has a ton of great info. AdrianM mentioned a thread, rubber vs. foam, but I did a search and couldn't find it. I ran my car twice with the foams and tire wear wasn't too bad, but the front tires outside edge was a little chewed up. I didn't measure them before and after, but next time I will. Thanks for your suggestions, and if anyone has a setup sheet they want to share I would appreciate it.
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Hey guys, I happen to have been part of Team Schumacher and worked with Adrian during that time where we in the North East ran alot of foams outside. If I remember correctly, we ran purple's and plaids for the most part. You run your tires taller than on carpet and when they get to about 57mm you put them away and then tru them for carpet. If nothing else, they are practice tires.
Oh and don't worry Adrian,
We still love ya
Oh and don't worry Adrian,
We still love ya
#12
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Adrian we have never met but just reading your comments for the last few months makes me wonder why jason would ever hire a blohard like you? You can't be good for his business the way you shut down everyone's ideas, comments, and questions. I have come back to the sport after years away and I dropped TC because I like the way foam tires work, just maybe there are others that feel this way and instead of reading about how on road is thinning out people might start returning if you stopped telling everyone how they should be thinking.
I can vouch for Adrian. He and I have butted heads on occasion but he is right on with why his answers are so short. From the TT site to the HPI site the RC Touring site.....etc. it has been the same things over and over for years. I can see why Adrian's patience is wearing out. He even did a stint on the Ex-Com with ROAR. His opinions have a lot of experience behind them. We all should listen to what guys like him have to say and weigh it in our own deliberations. In the end, only you can make the decision as to what is right for you.
See you at the track on Saturday.
Art
#13
Tech Initiate
Hi Jamie ,you could also try the Hobby direct forum (www.hobbydirect.co.nz/) ,Electric R/C Cars & Trucks, the Ask Damon Slavich thread ,he's a leading racer who has a TC5 and has been racing the car with foam tires so should have a setup available that you could try.Hope that helps otherwise I can give you a run down of my experiences of foam tires using a Corally PHI.
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I looked on stormer hobbies site, and I do not see Jaco 37, but I did see 38 shore. So I just ordered up a set. I hoping I won't have to tru them? I don't have anything to do that, plus right now I'm just learning how to drive on-road, and won't be competing any time soon. I might have to adjust my body (DNA1) a bit to make them fit. Thanks for the suggestions!