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Old 01-09-2008, 08:44 PM   #46
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Lets see the graphs......
Here's a graph that's right up your alley:

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/boil.html
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Here's a graph that's right up your alley:

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/boil.html
I actually thought it was going to be graph LMAO! Till I saw boiling!
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Lets see the graphs......
Would it be wrong if I secretly wished you would overcharge your battery? Because you're a damn twit sometimes.
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Would it be wrong if I secretly wished you would overcharge your battery? Because you're a damn twit sometimes.
Go ahead....... Make some nice fireworks I need a reason to upgrade? Or just something new.... I have shoerted it 2 times, and have over discharged it (5.6V) and she is still kicking

You keep putting down enerland cells, and you say on graphs the kokam is so much better, i want to see graphs, I cant find the TrakPower graphs after RCM's server crashed and they lost data, so I cant back up what I saw, there graphs on TrakPower's site, but there conditions, and real conditions are alot different... I AM looking, I know someone has it, I just have to get the right person
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Would it be wrong if I secretly wished you would overcharge your battery? Because you're a damn twit sometimes.


the funniest part is this kid is as quiet as a mouse in person.
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the funniest part is this kid is as quiet as a mouse in person.
Because you guys always make me walk away to talk about, idk what LOL.... Last I hear was Scotty was going to rip off Terry's nuts, so I just walked away, and then it was licking..... Well you know

So I talk to the guys on the other side of the pits...
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Because you guys always make me walk away to talk about, idk what LOL.... Last I hear was Scotty was going to rip off Terry's nuts, so I just walked away, and then it was licking..... Well you know

So I talk to the guys on the other side of the pits...
something something a couple girls and a cup.
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something something a couple girls and a cup.
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something something a couple girls and a cup.
Ohh yeah, 2 girls 1 cup

LOL Billy wouldnt let you guys use his comp

Just dont ever go to wowmg...... Some hacker hacked someones page (MySpace), and put that around, I was dumb enough to click on it (lol) and I just about puked....
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.... I have shoerted it 2 times, and have over discharged it (5.6V) and she is still kicking

You keep putting down enerland cells, and you say on graphs the kokam is so much better, i want to see graphs
Here are some graphs done by an independent source.

An Enerland cell used in the flightpower pack
http://www.slowflyer.ch/downloads/tn060051.pdf

vs a Kokam Cell in a Kokam pack
http://www.slowflyer.ch/downloads/tn07004.pdf

The Enerland cell lost 7% capacity in 36 cycles. After such a large loss in capacity - they elected to raise the voltage cutoff. Something they didn't do for any other cell.

The Kokam cell lost 8% capacity in 360 cycles.
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the DC discharge graph on page 3 of the kokam one is interesting. below 20c those cells do some strange stuff!
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Here are some graphs done by an independent source.

An Enerland cell used in the flightpower pack
http://www.slowflyer.ch/downloads/tn060051.pdf

vs a Kokam Cell in a Kokam pack
http://www.slowflyer.ch/downloads/tn07004.pdf

The Enerland cell lost 7% capacity in 36 cycles. After such a large loss in capacity - they elected to raise the voltage cutoff. Something they didn't do for any other cell.

The Kokam cell lost 8% capacity in 360 cycles.

Thank you for backing that up!

Well, I cant say I still dont like my enerland stuff better, but that is impressive!
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...The Enerland cell lost 7% capacity in 36 cycles. After such a large loss in capacity - they elected to raise the voltage cutoff. Something they didn't do for any other cell.

The Kokam cell lost 8% capacity in 360 cycles.
Linger Kokam does not need that, and surely Enerland does not deserve that too.

Sure you noticed
"With the initial setting for Vcutoff (2.9V/cell) 96% of the rated capacity was discharged but this was too
severe. The useful capacity decreased almost 7% during the first 36 cycles. With Vcutoff = 3.1V/cell there was
almost no degradation observed for the next 50 cycles."


With the Kokam pack 3,0v cutoff was used al the time. And surely you do not want to say if a lipo is better then the other because of that cutoff voltage.

Let's be careful with the comparisons.
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Here are some graphs done by an independent source.

An Enerland cell used in the flightpower pack
http://www.slowflyer.ch/downloads/tn060051.pdf

vs a Kokam Cell in a Kokam pack
http://www.slowflyer.ch/downloads/tn07004.pdf

The Enerland cell lost 7% capacity in 36 cycles. After such a large loss in capacity - they elected to raise the voltage cutoff. Something they didn't do for any other cell.

The Kokam cell lost 8% capacity in 360 cycles.
Ok Ling,

My B44 is just about ready sooooo....I guess I'm ready for that kick in the nuts now. If of course, you grow a pair and show up for the race!
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Linger Kokam does not need that, and surely Enerland does not deserve that too.

Sure you noticed
"With the initial setting for Vcutoff (2.9V/cell) 96% of the rated capacity was discharged but this was too
severe. The useful capacity decreased almost 7% during the first 36 cycles. With Vcutoff = 3.1V/cell there was
almost no degradation observed for the next 50 cycles."


With the Kokam pack 3,0v cutoff was used al the time. And surely you do not want to say if a lipo is better then the other because of that cutoff voltage.

Let's be careful with the comparisons.
I apologize, my mistake. I didn't read closely enough.
I'll make it up to you though. I'll post some more comparison testing.
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