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Old 12-27-2003, 06:55 AM   #1246
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Thanks for the info. I am running an RCLab Pro 6.0 ver II. Do you happen to have any setups for this car for a very small carpet track running foam tires?


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jeff,

i've run the car for the last year or so on carpet, and it was great on certain tracks. i always ran with a diff up front, which i recommend for carpet as there is plenty of traction available for steering.

here it is

front
- 2 hole piston w/50wt assoc oil (trinity 70ish)
- trinity congo yellow spring (or assoc white)
- outer arm mount/middle tower mount on c/f or molded tower
- fixed kickup with 5* optional castor blocks (alum)
- toe 0*
- camber set to even tire wear (-1*ish)
- camber link bulkhead to kingpin (see post pics from oct/nov last year)
- droop 2mm
- front diff tighter than rear
- r/h 4.5mm
- trc plaid @ 2.35" (my car always liked them fairly meaty)
- corally jack the grippa sauce 50% (inside half)

rear
- 2 hole piston w/50wt assoc oil (trinity 70ish)
- trinity congo yellow spring (or assoc white)
- middle arm mount/outer tower mount on molded tower (2nd in on c/f)
- fixed kickup with high roll center (pin in lower hub hole)
- toe 1.5* (molded kit hubs, but they looked more like .5*)
- camber set to even tire wear (-2*ish)
- camber link from bulkhead to outer position on hub
- droop 3mm
- r/h 4.5mm
- tire trc purple @ 2.35"
- corally jack the grippa sauce 100%

with this setup i could still dial out a bit of steering for our larger tracks. we always have medium to high bite contiditions. i think congo purples (or assoc yellows) would work for tighter tracks just fine. i always like this car more with less and less castor. eventually i started running the beta kit with no kickup and the 5* carriers. that was the best for me. the 6.0 kit would likely be good on carpet with the newer 3* castor blocks, since the fixed kickup is about 2.5*. the reduced castor keeps the car more level entering turns, which allowed me to go in harder.

additionally, if you can weigh the car, try to keep some weight on the front. i seem to think that the batteries need some offset up front. my car was best when it was dead 50/50 f/r.

well that's a start. if you are running the one way, you'll likely benefit from keeping that stiff spring up front, toeing the rear pretty hard (1.5+), and increasing the rear droop (5 ish).

good luck, have fun, and let us know your thoughts.

lata,

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Old 12-27-2003, 04:08 PM   #1248
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Sweet. Thanks for the info. I just got my spare Pro II car in today and will set it up per these specs and try it out. I am currently running the one way on one, but have a spare diff now and will set on car up just like what you have given and try it out. I am running the plaids and purples just like your setup, so looks to be a great starting point for me.


Do you happen to know the specs on those springs? I have the RClab pro spring kit to work with right now.




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Sweet. Thanks for the info. I just got my spare Pro II car in today and will set it up per these specs and try it out. I am currently running the one way on one, but have a spare diff now and will set on car up just like what you have given and try it out. I am running the plaids and purples just like your setup, so looks to be a great starting point for me.


Do you happen to know the specs on those springs? I have the RClab pro spring kit to work with right now.




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yeah, the specs are:

the congo yellow/assoc white are spec'd at 40lbs
the congo purple/assoc yellow are spec'd at 35lbs

i think the rclab gold are spec'd at 25lbs, and the others are even softer.

start with the gold springs if that's all you have. truth be told, some guys run the lab car soft on carpet. but it tends to bind up for me running stock class, since stockers don't have a ton of power.

if the car is rolling too much, keep taking away a little droop until the car becomes inconsistent. also maybe start with assoc 35-40 since you won't have the spring to push it.

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Old 12-27-2003, 06:02 PM   #1251
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coolikeice,

what belts are you using for the 17/32 combo? you'll need a 114t. is rclab offering one? and i'll assume that you are using a 128t spur (or 96 in 48p). do you have trouble with the large pullies and small pinion? what i mean is do the belts rub the motor on low rollout tracks?

i've played with that stuff too, but not the 17/32 as i never found a belt to do that with.

what else has rclab been up to? any new developements?
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Old 12-27-2003, 06:27 PM   #1252
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Steve, It came today. Thanks! It's nice to have two cars. Now I can test settings on another car or still have spare parts to boot!

Seaball- Thanks for the tips. I will give them a try and see how it goes!!



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Old 12-29-2003, 05:00 AM   #1253
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Hello seaball,

we used the 32/15 belts, try not to use a fresh belt for the front.
yippy 128t spur, after using the 128s we just fell in love with them. we even went to the extend of 129 and 130t spurs. Initially we wondered, is that the max size of spurs & pinions that could fit? We manage with 51t pinion 64 pitch. Later i would show you a pics on " How to fit 51t pinions", How's that?

rclab New Developments:

New concept of using the Front Graphite Shock Towers
New Alum Diffs which uses C- Blades
New Layshafts - improve mid - top speed
New Alum Wheel Hubs
New 7S-012-TBH hardened dogbone for ULF Driveshaft
New 7M-304-T Belt Tensioner Set made in aluminum and New cutting design ( are you using em?)
NEW 7M-TB35 30 & 35mm rclab Turnbuckle


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HAPPY NEW YEAR AND ALL THE BEST TO ALL RCLAB DRIVERS
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Old 01-01-2004, 07:45 AM   #1255
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Happy New Year!




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i second that.
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Old 01-10-2004, 06:06 AM   #1257
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Hi Guys,

Happy New Year. Been real busy with lots of races.

Let's make it the year of the Labrats

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wow..not much happening in here... hope everyone had a good start of the new year.Lets update or throw in a discussion on how we can redesign this car...ideas?..there's lots of new cars out there.So bring on your thoughts.Who knows...your idea may be used... ya right...
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Redesign ? not needed my friend , only just started testing my GT3 and it is already faster than the car i used last year. Just need some good dry weather here in the UK and i can start working on setups ready for this years racing.

New design threaded shocks are very smooth by the way

More new stuff coming in the next month or so.
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Hey...weekendracer_uk,

How's racing scene there......rain is no good..
Got any pics of your ride?..body....?.post some here.Like to see what UK Lab Rats...looks like.We need more pics here..cheers..
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