U.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing
Tech Champion
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i was just going thru and reading about the tekin stuff.
the place i race at allows tekins in the spec mode.and im here to tell ya there is no difference running the guy that has the novak esc.
same car..same gearing..same motor...same battery...and he still might be a smuge faster down the staright...
the place i race at allows tekins in the spec mode.and im here to tell ya there is no difference running the guy that has the novak esc.
same car..same gearing..same motor...same battery...and he still might be a smuge faster down the staright...
i was just going thru and reading about the tekin stuff.
the place i race at allows tekins in the spec mode.and im here to tell ya there is no difference running the guy that has the novak esc.
same car..same gearing..same motor...same battery...and he still might be a smuge faster down the staright...
the place i race at allows tekins in the spec mode.and im here to tell ya there is no difference running the guy that has the novak esc.
same car..same gearing..same motor...same battery...and he still might be a smuge faster down the staright...
Tech Fanatic
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The only difference will be the $99.00 missing from your wallet.
since you seem so knowledgable about the Tekin goof with v208 - then you know it was already resolved with v212...and you'd also know the ROAR approved v208 for usage THEN found out about the error...so the error wasn't solely on tekin - both parties were at fault...
and talk about beating a dead horse....There was a mistake made, and it was rectified quickly (within a week I believe, as I was a team driver during all this), so no need to bad mouth them any more then the bashing they are taking in the ROAR threads...
and talk about beating a dead horse....There was a mistake made, and it was rectified quickly (within a week I believe, as I was a team driver during all this), so no need to bad mouth them any more then the bashing they are taking in the ROAR threads...
Until Tekin gets in the game with their own true zero timing spec ESC that cannot be programmed, they won't be allowed in the USVTA or other spec classes. Again, that's pretty simple.
And I am not bashing Tekin. I have said before, I have used their electronics since 1984, and use them in every one of my cars except my Trans Am chassis. I stand by the product, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't completely disappointed in the v208 issues that surfaced.
End of story. Anyone who can't accept the facts should go race in another class and stop complaining about things they have no control over.
Tech Champion
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thank you...as long as you hand it to me...it will look nice to the 3rd place I got last year
I will and bringing company...and not just the wifey and kids
more like Space Invaders....Im swooping in and destroy the competition
my ankle...oh snap...he got the nail in
well if money is an issue, buy a Speed Passion Cirtix...use it and sell ot to me
I will and bringing company...and not just the wifey and kids
well if money is an issue, buy a Speed Passion Cirtix...use it and sell ot to me
Tech Champion
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I'm not bad-mouthing anyone—it's factual information and the truth. They made a mistake (or not) and it has caused a lot of grief. There are some readers here who can't understand why they are not allowed. v208 or v212, it doesn't matter for a spec class. No track or race promoter should have to hook up EVERY car to a laptop to prove what software they are using. Simple as that. ROAR agrees.
Until Tekin gets in the game with their own true zero timing spec ESC that cannot be programmed, they won't be allowed in the USVTA or other spec classes. Again, that's pretty simple.
And I am not bashing Tekin. I have said before, I have used their electronics since 1984, and use them in every one of my cars except my Trans Am chassis. I stand by the product, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't completely disappointed in the v208 issues that surfaced.
End of story. Anyone who can't accept the facts should go race in another class and stop complaining about things they have no control over.
Until Tekin gets in the game with their own true zero timing spec ESC that cannot be programmed, they won't be allowed in the USVTA or other spec classes. Again, that's pretty simple.
And I am not bashing Tekin. I have said before, I have used their electronics since 1984, and use them in every one of my cars except my Trans Am chassis. I stand by the product, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't completely disappointed in the v208 issues that surfaced.
End of story. Anyone who can't accept the facts should go race in another class and stop complaining about things they have no control over.
Tech Master
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Just tell me where I need send my $99...
Tech Champion
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Again my complaint is these rules change all the time. 17.5 one year, 21.5 motor the next year, then half way thru the year Novak produces the ballistic 21.5 motor. I buy one those and now this year I need new speed controller, and a 25.5 motor to race, cmon..............
FURTHER, USVTA is a comparatively new class still and came into being right at the outset of major technological changes (the advent of brushless tech and LiPo tech) in how we race RC. Just like TC, changes had to be made at some point to accomodate these new technologies. That was the change that was effected in USVTA summer 2008. So no "point" awarded to either class in this regard.
And being a new class, I'd say USVTA can be allowed a little manipulation here and there to get the competitive balance where it oughta be. What the hell is TC's excuse for rules changes...that class has been around dog's years now, you'd think they'd get it figured out eventually
Get over it. Accept that certain equipment is or is not going to be accepted and either race the class or move on. No one is holding your feet to the fire. Either way, get your facts straight before you make arguments. You're debating from a position that demonstrates you've either been mis-informed, mis-understood something along the way, or are plain making stuff up to support your "premise".
Tech Champion
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What Tekin's v.208 "mistake" fiasco HAS done is probably made some clubs re-think decisions where they WERE going to allow programmable esc's if they were in tinky-winky-blinky mode but saw that if a mfr. like Tekin can make a boo-boo what's to say no one else has made a similar faux-pas and changed their mind. Or racers make a "mistake", or.... Or at least it probably re-opened an acrimonious debate in these clubs.
Tech Champion
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well...Im going to work now....so here is the skinny....
laptops are bad for r/c racing, as a whole(stock racing at least)
if you can program it, so can somebody else
Tekin isnt the only outlawed esc, Black Dimond got banned its 1st time out(Robk)
the esc's that are available, will not be a waste of money due to the fact that most ppl, even Tekin loyals, agree a sour taste about the blinky mode. So that should allow whatever esc you run in VTA to work in TC when and if you want to run something different.
the esc's on the VTA list are as cheap as $53 with warranty
before summer several other esc companies will be on the 2012 ROAR rules as well, the USVTA is just ahead of the curve.
thanks for listening....by the way...if you want to talk about coming around to race legal....
I have a Tekin RS, (4)GTB's, (2) Havok Pros, (2) LRP SPX( that I cant run, not even locally, cause Im a "fast" guy that why I had to BUY the freakin Tekin and the Havok)...and thats in TC or VTA
so lets see it this way....I spent $200 on a Tekin that Im selling for $100, 2 SPX's $200 for one $250 for the other that Ive be outlawed to run that are for sale as well, and $300 GTB(as a system new) that I ran in 3 different off-road classes...that until recent event wasnt worth anything...lol...
and guess what...IM HAPPY AS HE77....man I love the VTA class
laptops are bad for r/c racing, as a whole(stock racing at least)
if you can program it, so can somebody else
Tekin isnt the only outlawed esc, Black Dimond got banned its 1st time out(Robk)
the esc's that are available, will not be a waste of money due to the fact that most ppl, even Tekin loyals, agree a sour taste about the blinky mode. So that should allow whatever esc you run in VTA to work in TC when and if you want to run something different.
the esc's on the VTA list are as cheap as $53 with warranty
before summer several other esc companies will be on the 2012 ROAR rules as well, the USVTA is just ahead of the curve.
thanks for listening....by the way...if you want to talk about coming around to race legal....
I have a Tekin RS, (4)GTB's, (2) Havok Pros, (2) LRP SPX( that I cant run, not even locally, cause Im a "fast" guy that why I had to BUY the freakin Tekin and the Havok)...and thats in TC or VTA
so lets see it this way....I spent $200 on a Tekin that Im selling for $100, 2 SPX's $200 for one $250 for the other that Ive be outlawed to run that are for sale as well, and $300 GTB(as a system new) that I ran in 3 different off-road classes...that until recent event wasnt worth anything...lol...
and guess what...IM HAPPY AS HE77....man I love the VTA class
Tech Master
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Personally, I think we'd have a better chance of getting Rob to add the Mazda 6 speed to the USVTA approved bodies list before we could get the Tekin RS in the door...