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Old 02-27-2012, 10:58 PM
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Gearing sounds good to me. I'm running 3.84 right now. For the punch what are your esc settings? Are you running a spool up front? The punch control in the esc and a spool will both help with corner exit torque.
Whats punch in the ESC? I know boost is ilegal, but how do I adjust punch?
I have a Novak Edge 2s.
My Spektrum radio has a Throttle Punch adjustment, but that manual says its a nitro thing mostly.
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Whats punch in the ESC? I know boost is ilegal, but how do I adjust punch?
I have a Novak Edge 2s.
My Spektrum radio has a Throttle Punch adjustment, but that manual says its a nitro thing mostly.
your min drive on the Edge...
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your min drive on the Edge...
ok...so whats it do?
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Originally Posted by tinman79 View Post
ok...so whats it do?
Setting the minimum drive or "punch" is strictly a feel thing. If you exaggerate a bit as an example, setting your minimum drive to 100% if it were possible would turn your throttle into an on/off switch. At neutral you would be stopped, but at the first movement of your trigger, you would be at full throttle.

It's helpful the same way drag brake is. If you have a hard time being consistent on getting just the right amount of throttle out of the turns, then using the minimum drive to find the perfect throttle setting for you makes you consistent. I don't like punch or drag brake in VTA, I prefer to learn/practice propper throttle & brake control.
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Originally Posted by tinman79 View Post
ok...so whats it do?
It adjusts the amount of throttle applied with the first touch of forward throttle. Turning this setting up will make the throttle more aggressive. Also be sure to change the throttle curve to linear if its not there already. I would suggest you turn the minimum drive way up just so you can really see what it does then back it down to where you like it.
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Originally Posted by beemerfan View Post
Setting the minimum drive or "punch" is strictly a feel thing. If you exaggerate a bit as an example, setting your minimum drive to 100% if it were possible would turn your throttle into an on/off switch. At neutral you would be stopped, but at the first movement of your trigger, you would be at full throttle.

It's helpful the same way drag brake is. If you have a hard time being consistent on getting just the right amount of throttle out of the turns, then using the minimum drive to find the perfect throttle setting for you makes you consistent. I don't like punch or drag brake in VTA, I prefer to learn/practice propper throttle & brake control.
I think the min drive does a lot more then compensate for throttle control. It really makes the car much more aggressive out of the turns. Its the difference between easing into the throttle and hitting it really hard. Sometimes the esc eases the throttle too much when your car is just saying more more more.

I agree with no drag brake in vta. You need to let the car roll through the turns with minimum resistance. I run a little drag brake in f1 to get some forward weight shift on corner entry but none in the vta car.
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Not to interrupt the drama of tires MIA, but can some people chime with an average timing and fdr for their 25.5? I believe I am a little off the pace and would feel much better in knowing which direction I should go with my motor and gearing. I am running an fdr of 3.93 and timing one mark from being maxed out on a 96 x 40 track and it feels as if my punch is lacking and my top speed is close, but not quite there. Any advise or pointers would be great. THANKS!
for a similar sized carpet track I run at occassionally, I am/was geared at 3.53 on my TCX

on the ballisic motors, you can turn down the timing and add some teeth to the pinion to get some more top end and bottom end grunt
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What temp does your VTA motor come off of the track at ?

I run a 100x40 indoor track and come off at 175 after 8 minutes. 3.82 gearing and the timing at the + mark.
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Originally Posted by T Tom View Post
What temp does your VTA motor come off of the track at ?

I run a 100x40 indoor track and come off at 175 after 8 minutes. 3.82 gearing and the timing at the + mark.
Are you using a fan? Mine is 3.84 full timed and comes off at 120 after 8 minutes.
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I have my FDR at 3.70 and full timing on my 25.5 motor. My motor temp is around 165F after an 8 minute race.

What chassis are you using for your VTA?
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My motor has never been anywhere near 150 deg....

check your drive train and if you have belts, make sure you clean your pulleys
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After 4 days of collecting answers it looks like the Team Associated TC5 (or TC5R) is the #1 answer. Here are the results of the poll thus far.

Question: What chassis are you using for VTA?
# Votes ... Chassis Description
1 ... 15 ... Team Associated TC5 or TC5R
2 ... 14 ... Team Associated TC3 or TC4
3 ... 12 ... Xray T3 (all T3 *** models)
4 ... 8 ... HPI Sprint 2 or Spint 2 Sport
5 ... 8 ... Xray T2 (all T2 *** models)
6 ... 6 ... Tamiya TA05, TA05 IFS, or TA05 V2
7 ... 5 ... Other chassis type
8 ... 5 ... Team Associated TC6 or TC6.1
9 ... 5 ... Xray T1 (all T1** models)
10 .. 4 ... Corally RDX Phi (or any other Corally 1/10 scale 4wd model)
11 .. 3 ... 3Racing Sakura Zero S
12 .. 3 ... Losi JRX or JRX-S Type R
13 .. 3 ... Losi XXX-S
14 .. 2 ... HPI Pro 4
15 .. 2 ... Schumacher Mi3** (all sub-types)
16 .. 1 ... 3Racing Sakura XI
17 .. 1 ... Hot Bodies Cyclone S, Cyclone TC, or TCX
18 .. 1 ... HPI Pro 3
19 .. 1 ... Schumacher Mi4** (all sub-types)
20 .. 1 ... Schumacher M-One or MI-1
21 .. 1 ... Schumacher SST or Axial SST
22 .. 1 ... Serpent (any 1/10 scale 4wd model)
23 .. 1 ... T.O.P. Photon
24 .. 1 ... Tamiya TA06
25 .. 1 ... Tamiya TT01
26 .. 1 ... Trinity T-Spec (or any other Trinity 1/10 scale 4wd model)
27 .. 1 ... Yokomo (any 1/10 scale 4wd model)

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Ok we appreciate the poll but seeing it posted over and over in multiple threads starts to get a bit annoying.

Also is there a reason for the larger bolder text in all your posts?
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cool....TC5 at the top...I should have added my TC3 as well...then it would be a tie....lol

Originally Posted by wwddww34 View Post
After 4 days of collecting answers it looks like the Team Associated TC5 (or TC5R) is the #1 answer. Here are the results of the poll thus far.

Question: What chassis are you using for VTA?
# Votes ... Chassis Description
1 ... 15 ... Team Associated TC5 or TC5R
2 ... 14 ... Team Associated TC3 or TC4
3 ... 12 ... Xray T3 (all T3 *** models)
4 ... 8 ... HPI Sprint 2 or Spint 2 Sport
5 ... 8 ... Xray T2 (all T2 *** models)
6 ... 6 ... Tamiya TA05, TA05 IFS, or TA05 V2
7 ... 5 ... Other chassis type
8 ... 5 ... Team Associated TC6 or TC6.1
9 ... 5 ... Xray T1 (all T1** models)
10 .. 4 ... Corally RDX Phi (or any other Corally 1/10 scale 4wd model)
11 .. 3 ... 3Racing Sakura Zero S
12 .. 3 ... Losi JRX or JRX-S Type R
13 .. 3 ... Losi XXX-S
14 .. 2 ... HPI Pro 4
15 .. 2 ... Schumacher Mi3** (all sub-types)
16 .. 1 ... 3Racing Sakura XI
17 .. 1 ... Hot Bodies Cyclone S, Cyclone TC, or TCX
18 .. 1 ... HPI Pro 3
19 .. 1 ... Schumacher Mi4** (all sub-types)
20 .. 1 ... Schumacher M-One or MI-1
21 .. 1 ... Schumacher SST or Axial SST
22 .. 1 ... Serpent (any 1/10 scale 4wd model)
23 .. 1 ... T.O.P. Photon
24 .. 1 ... Tamiya TA06
25 .. 1 ... Tamiya TT01
26 .. 1 ... Trinity T-Spec (or any other Trinity 1/10 scale 4wd model)
27 .. 1 ... Yokomo (any 1/10 scale 4wd model)

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Originally Posted by T Tom View Post
What temp does your VTA motor come off of the track at ?

I run a 100x40 indoor track and come off at 175 after 8 minutes. 3.82 gearing and the timing at the + mark.
I really dont have a temp gun, but I would say around 140F - 150F degrees.
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