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Old 12-14-2011, 03:20 PM   #13006
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I hope that I did not take away from the gravity of what you were actually trying to say. I was trying to lighten it and have some fun, but I did see that you actually had a point to make.
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anyone have a good vta setup for high bite carpet with a tc4?

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I would start with the set up straight out of the book and then tune out what ever undesireable characteristic you might have.
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anyone have a good vta setup for high bite carpet with a tc4?

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I run as low a roll center as possible, Silver Springs rear Blue up front, and about 30-35 wt oil rear and front respectively.

other than that it's stock settings
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David, I know you have your heart in the right spot and want to be a part of VTA at the Nationals, but representing yourself the way you do can be misleading for people to whom you are the only representative for Mike's Hobby Shop or for that matter VTA racing. For example when you say "we" are petitioning for full USVTA, who is the "we" and where are you getting the information? I personally have a pit room across from you and see you 2+ days a week have not once had you petition for full USVTA. Are you calling Schuur, Babcock, Hill or Pond?

Here's our current progress concerning whether to run VTA, and if so the rules for the carpet nats. Our track reps and ROAR have discussed more than one possibility of rule sets for VTA as well as other exhibition classes. We are close to making a decision, and I really think that while the decision will obviously not make everyone happy, that as much as I am capable of influencing it, the decision that is made will be in the best interest of R/C racing in North America as a whole; Not just best for Mike's, or best for die hard USVTA/F1/USGT/Barbie Jeep racers, or best for ROAR. We all read the negative posts about our sanctioning body. Its easy to do. It takes a dedicated racer to accept what they can't change, and put a full effort into changing what they can.
Andrew, I agree with everything you said. However keep in mind that if I don't get my Christmas wish (aka. VTA Expo Class at the ROAR Carpet Nats) then I will hold you responsible for not making it happen and I will be putting extra coats of Paragon on my VTA tires before placing the car on the carpet track (without wiping them off first)!!! J.K.
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I would love to go, but the dates fall on our planting date for our tomatoes.
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Andrew, I agree with everything you said. However keep in mind that if I don't get my Christmas wish (aka. VTA Expo Class at the ROAR Carpet Nats) then I will hold you responsible for not making it happen and I will be putting extra coats of Paragon on my VTA tires before placing the car on the carpet track (without wiping them off first)!!! J.K.
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Our track runs a "USVTA-OVAL" program -- no road course.

Anyone have a good setup for a TC4 VTA -- except on a carpet oval ?

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Our track runs a "USVTA-OVAL" program -- no road course.

Anyone have a good setup for a TC4 VTA -- except on a carpet oval ?

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The problem with oval, even in VTA is the temptation to find LTO chassis plates to use on your roller. You cant stagger or use the oval bodies in VTA spec, but unless its specified that you cant use it, people will probably show up with those. (left turn only chassis)
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dealing with oval-only setups would need to be discussed; but I will say this, at our local track we sometimes configure for an oval and drop our VTA cars on the oval as-is, and it's definitely fun!
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The problem with oval, even in VTA is the temptation to find LTO chassis plates to use on your roller. You cant stagger or use the oval bodies in VTA spec, but unless its specified that you cant use it, people will probably show up with those.

Yeah - it's a "for fun" class really --

They allow any "vintage" body (20+ years old) from any manufacturer.

It's not that "hard-core" -- guys are not dumping $500 into the cars. Pretty much box-stock tub chassis, etc.

But a lot of fun. And it's really cool not to have to just see a freight train of HPI Camaros, etc. going around. It's neat to see the old Super Birds, big ol' Monte Carlos, '55 Chevys, etc.
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I farm for a living. The tomatoes we grow have a contract harvest date, and a contact planting date to put in the transplants.



They bring three or four of these to the field at once, then once they leave, you have to start irrigation IMMEDIATELY.

Sorry, can't go. I hear Mike's is the finest racetrack in the country.
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For oval, I would run my road course standard setup to start, and mess with the left rear shock preload to get the balance right. Adding more preload (screwing it down) will add wedge (cross weight), and tighten the chassis up. Taking preload out will loosen it up.

I would start with a new set of tires and look closely at wear, both on the tires and on the body. If the right front tire is burned up and the body is covered in dust on that corner, it's too tight.
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But a lot of fun. And it's really cool not to have to just see a freight train of HPI Camaros, etc. going around. It's neat to see the old Super Birds, big ol' Monte Carlos, '55 Chevys, etc.
It does sound like fun. Then again the whole VTA class is a just for fun class. Not that you can't take it seriously.

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I farm for a living. The tomatoes we grow have a contract harvest date, and a contact planting date to put in the transplants. Sorry, can't go. I hear Mike's is the finest racetrack in the country.
I thought you might actually be serious about planting the tomatoes.
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For oval, I would run my road course standard setup to start, and mess with the left rear shock preload to get the balance right. Adding more preload (screwing it down) will add wedge (cross weight), and tighten the chassis up. Taking preload out will loosen it up.

I would start with a new set of tires and look closely at wear, both on the tires and on the body. If the right front tire is burned up and the body is covered in dust on that corner, it's too tight.

Can you post your "road course standard setup" ?

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