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Old 05-20-2011, 10:41 AM   #11566
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How does the SS and Ballistic compare? I have a Ballistic in my VTA car but Im needing to buy 2 more set ups for my sons. Was looking at the SS motors to save a little $$ but dont want them to be at a disadvantage.
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Identical motors, performance-wise. The Ballistic is nice because it is fully rebuildable, and it does have removable sensor wires, which I find to be worth it by itself. Plus, with a $35 stator in, you can change the 25.5 to be a 21.5 if you wanted to do a different spec class (or any other motor wind you want).
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Identical motors, performance-wise. The Ballistic is nice because it is fully rebuildable, and it does have removable sensor wires, which I find to be worth it by itself. Plus, with a $35 stator in, you can change the 25.5 to be a 21.5 if you wanted to do a different spec class (or any other motor wind you want).
good deal thank you
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I'm working on setting up a TC3 as a spare/loaner VTA car, have a few questions for the TC3 wizards.

1) I have the composite plastic shocks, which I've installed the VCS2 upgrade kit on, and I am using a rear shock tower on the front per the more modern TC3 setup sheets.

I'm running into an issue where the shocks are just too long, especially on the front. I had to shim the front shock tower up 3mm AND take the uptravel limiters off the shock shaft (the VCS2 kit says these are required to prevent the piston from hitting the bladder) just to get enough uptravel to be able to push the chassis of the car flat to the ground. I had to remove the uptravel limiters on the rear as well. The pistons don't seem to hit the bladders, but the uptravel is still quite limited because the shocks don't compress short enough (the bottom spring retainer hits the bottom of the shock body and that's the shortest they can get).

Do the aluminum/factory/FT shock bodies compress shorter, or are they the same?

2) any tips on being able to run the diffs looser than the manual setting without having them slip obnoxiously? They are extremely tight compared to what I"m used to on other more modern TC chassis, and even when they are tight they slip.
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How does the SS and Ballistic compare? I have a Ballistic in my VTA car but Im needing to buy 2 more set ups for my sons. Was looking at the SS motors to save a little $$ but dont want them to be at a disadvantage.
Like davidw said we are about 50/50 SS to ballistic on our track at Mikes, we are all about same speed. I run an SS and I have a bit more speed at the end of a straight than a guy with a ballistic but we are also geared different ever so slightly. But all in all I'd say they are pretty equal.
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Novak has stated that they are all absolutely identical. Any speed differences in motor types is in gearing/timing differences, and nothing else.
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^^+1 I have a ballistic and it's not any faster.
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I ran the Goose 25.5 reman and its just as fast as my Havok Ballastic...
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Try a TC3 thread.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:09 AM   #11575
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What kind of gearing are the guys that are using a tc4 chassis in USGT running? Im assuming you all have made the jump to 64 pitch?
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We have built a couple of VTA cars on Xray 007 platform,need to know a starting point for shock piston,shock oil weight,and springs.We will be running on carpet.Any help will be appreciated.
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We have built a couple of VTA cars on Xray 007 platform,need to know a starting point for shock piston,shock oil weight,and springs.We will be running on carpet.Any help will be appreciated.
Unless a driver who has a 007 jumps on here with a good setup, it's always best to start with the "box stock" setup for the car. Do you have the original included setup sheet?? If not, I'll bet the stock setup is available on XRay's website.

looked it up for you...maybe this link can help:
http://forum.teamxray.com/xsheets.ph...d48855c3de591e
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Don't panic ! They're talking about USGT ...not VTA.
Its driving me nuts. Indoor around here is VTA, while outdoor is USGT...

My wife is isn't going to understand if she sees I have three motors for my on-road car (drift, VTA, USGT)...
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We have built a couple of VTA cars on Xray 007 platform,need to know a starting point for shock piston,shock oil weight,and springs.We will be running on carpet.Any help will be appreciated.
Funny Enough I had real good luck with Drew Ellis 2006 roar pave nats setup on my 006 xray on carpet with 21.5 vta should be good to go with a little less rear toe to start.
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