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Old 05-26-2008, 09:50 AM   #1111
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Ahh, outdoor racing. Be careful to not overgear outside with the 27t motors, even though it's very tempting with a bigger track. The cars ARE slow, and that's the point. The whole race is a lot more fun when everyone is pretty close to the same speed. If you need to, get everyone to gear the cars so that they are similar in speeds. It makes the racing entirely more enjoyable for everyone and it puts on a WAY better show for those watching.

Personally, I'd prefer to keep the rules the same for indoors AND outdoors, but some outdoor tracks just may dictate the need for a little more speed.




Is that Camaro on the left using vintage tires and wheels?
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Also it sort of looks like the green Mustang is sporting a rear deck spoiler, a no-no.
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17.5 4 cell??!?
Yes 17.5 - Fat Old fingers = Typo's
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The camaro is a sprint 2 rtr that still had the 15t and a 6cell , and stock wheels, we let him run just to get another car on the track. He is waiting on some vintage tires and wheels to come in, and will be in "spec" the next outing. Yep the green mustang has a spoiler, but so does the white one in the gallery photos on the website. I was thinking it was ok, but if not it will come off, no prob. Laterz
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The included lip spoiler is legal, but not a touring car "wing" like what is included (also) with the Cuda, and I think one of the Mustangs.
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Yeah, the spoiler is no big deal, I'm not sure that it helps. I run the Mustang body too and it seems fine the way it is, except that it's tall and narrow.
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The included lip spoiler is legal, but not a touring car "wing" like what is included (also) with the Cuda, and I think one of the Mustangs.
The Mustangs do not come with the lip spoiler like the Camaro and Cuda.
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I run the Mustang body too and it seems fine the way it is
I'm surprised you have the same body from the TA nats, Dave.

Your Mustang has bullseye painted all over it!!
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I'm surprised you have the same body from the TA nats, Dave.

Your Mustang has bullseye painted all over it!!
No, don't you remember that I used the Pegasus Camaro (re:boat) for the Nats.

As far as that bull's eye goes, weren't you aiming at it yesterday. BTW congrats on nearly TQ in TA.
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why dont you contact www.rctvlive.com and have this series be the buzz on the boards?

this definately sounds like something those two would be interested in
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To any of you preparing to run 21.5/LiPo combos this summer, please keep in mind that it is an extremely strong possibility (read: likely) that the Novak 21.5 will be the ONLY motor allowed for this formula in Trans Am. It will be a spec motor, but LiPo batteries will probably be limited to 5000 mAh. This is where the tentative rules are at the moment.
Personally, I would prefer that it be any ROAR approved 21.5 BL Motor.


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Personally, I'd prefer to keep the rules the same for indoors AND outdoors, but some outdoor tracks just may dictate the need for a little more speed.
I like the same rules for both, but understand that at large outdoor tracks with long straightaways; the standard motor/batt combo might be too slow.
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Apex,

why dont you contact www.rctvlive.com and have this series be the buzz on the boards?

this definately sounds like something those two would be interested in

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Personally, I would prefer that it be any ROAR approved 21.5 BL Motor.
It probably will not be open to other brands. Not that a reason is needed, but here is why:

Because the 21.5 motors are NOT ROAR-approved motors (like the 13.5 and 17.5), there are no standards for brushless motor performance with this motor. There probably never will be. While it may not be likely that manufacturers go crazy with the design and development of 21.5s or other non-ROAR motors, we're not going to take any chances for now. It's bad enough that there are so many LiPo options to keep track of at this point, so to keep things simple and very fair for everyone, the motor option for the 21.5 choice will probably be a spec one (Novak 21.5ss, non crawler).

I can understand the want for more options, but frankly this class already has more choice for the racer than any other class in racing. If you don't like the 21.5 option, there are still 2 very viable and competitive power options for Trans Am. You can't beat that with a stick.


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I've spoken with Mike Boylan a few times about dirt oval things, and I will bring this up with him in the future. However, the summertime will be the dead season for on-road racing, for the most part, so it will be in the USVTA's best interest to spark up a big marketing and PR push more towards the time when everyone is ramping up for carpet racing (USVTA's bread & butter). I'm sure it will be something that will be easy to promote this fall after the rapid growth and success seen this past winter.

Good suggestions, though. I'm sure you'll see more USVTA in the coming months.



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I like the same rules for both, but understand that at large outdoor tracks with long straightaways; the standard motor/batt combo might be too slow.
While there is very definitely "too fast", there's no such thing as "too slow"...but that's an idea that a lot of racers have a hard time getting their heads around. The "slower" the racing the closer the pack. Period.

They race Formula Vees ("slowest" open wheel racing class, powered by early '60's stock Volkswagen engines...about 40hp) at Road America (about the largest, fastest track in the US with a BIG hill to climb) and the racing is STILL the closest you'll ever see.

American toy car racers (whether RC, slot cars, whatever) seem to have a mindset that "faster racing" equals "better racing". That is demonstrably not the case. "Faster" racing is just that...faster. Usually more expensive too. The slowest classes, whether real cars or toy cars, ALWAYS have the closest ("best") racing.
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+1 for same rules, inside and out.
+1 for Novak 21.5 being the only 21.5.

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