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Old 12-29-2009, 05:28 PM
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Is there a typo there or did we also decide to increase the weight 100 grams as well???
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Two minor suggestions:

First, the link to the gear ratio calculator is now obsolete and can be removed since there is no FDR spec.

Second, I don't know how "pro" or "anti" I am on this, but now that Novak offer their "Build a Ballistic" program so you can spec a rotor, etc why not open it up to using any of the rotors available? The "pro" to this would be that it really does eliminate the last "tech" issue that can't be resolved with a quick visual check (though it seems that the tuning rotors aren't drilled in the tips, or are drilled, or some-such?).

The down side is that folks may feel compelled to have a few different rotors. That said, rotors are comparatively inexpensive and add one more tuning element to the mix.

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Thanks for the new rules Rob all the changes will work out for the better Im sure.

Guys with the heigher weight you would be shocked to see how much better your VTA car works with a higher weight. I tested my car at 1460g and 1500g and 1550 and 1600g and all it really did was just make the car easier to drive the lap times and motor temps didnt change. Plus working tech for a series with VTA cars not too many cars ar even close to the old limit of 1450...most cars are in the 1500 range.
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Huh. Fair enough. That makes it quite possible (easy, even) for the old "tubby" cars to "make weight" even with significant body reinforcing, etc. Also if HPI finally make a heavier weight body that they've periodically threatened to do.

Can you share the official reason for the increase? Not opposed at all, just curious.

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Guys with the heigher weight you would be shocked to see how much better your VTA car works with a higher weight. I tested my car at 1460g and 1500g and 1550 and 1600g and all it really did was just make the car easier to drive the lap times and motor temps didnt change. Plus working tech for a series with VTA cars not too many cars ar even close to the old limit of 1450...most cars are in the 1500 range.
Roger that! Our experience adding weight (supposedly as performance penalties) in the first season of VTA racing revealed that the cars kept getting better the more weight we added...up to ridiculous amounts!! That said my VTA ride is spot on 1450 with a bit of weight added to make weight.
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Originally Posted by Scottrik View Post
Two minor suggestions:

First, the link to the gear ratio calculator is now obsolete and can be removed since there is no FDR spec.

Second, I don't know how "pro" or "anti" I am on this, but now that Novak offer their "Build a Ballistic" program so you can spec a rotor, etc why not open it up to using any of the rotors available? The "pro" to this would be that it really does eliminate the last "tech" issue that can't be resolved with a quick visual check (though it seems that the tuning rotors aren't drilled in the tips, or are drilled, or some-such?).

The down side is that folks may feel compelled to have a few different rotors. That said, rotors are comparatively inexpensive and add one more tuning element to the mix.

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No tuning rotors.
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I'd like to make it easier for guys to drive the cars, as we found out cars were more stable heavier. Also, 1450 was great with 4 cell, but it's easier to balance the car heavier, and you can run a driver and not have weight problems
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Trust me...9 out of 10 physicians agree...my driver has a weight problem that no 100g hike is going to fix

OH...you meant the little lexan dude in the car???!!!
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I'd like to make it easier for guys to drive the cars, as we found out cars were more stable heavier. Also, 1450 was great with 4 cell, but it's easier to balance the car heavier, and you can run a driver and not have weight problems
Wont slower cars be easier to drive anyway, without weight changes?

Also what were the lap times in comparison to what we are currently running with the 21.5 and juiced escs?
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The heavier cars actually go very slightly faster, maybe because they are easier to drive.

The 25.5 cars were about 4.-.5 off a 21.5 car, but on larger asphalt tracks this will probably be more.
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Bravo.....Everyone had to know this was coming...I am suprised that a smaller Lipo wasnt spec'd.....Although this will start a wild fire on the thread I think it is a great idea and it will bring back VTA to what it was in the begining.......Nice Job Rob
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[QUOTE=robk;6779924]The heavier cars actually go very slightly faster, maybe because they are easier to drive.

The 25.5 cars were about 4.-.5 off a 21.5 car, but on larger asphalt tracks this will probably be more.[/QUOTE

That would be my biggest concern, the cars being boring on larger tracks. I could see them being fun still on a 60' layout but on 120' not so much. I think if anything we'll see a spike in the RCGT class when the new rules do go in effect. Guess time will tell.
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is the 25.5 in the store's yet or is it coming later
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