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Old 08-24-2009, 08:08 PM   #5791
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I applaud your effort to reccommend something new, but I dont think you are going to get clubs to go for it. Plus Im not sure all of the shaft drive cars can be converted. I think its more difficult to implement than you think.
Popping out the dogbones from the CVD joint would probably be a better description. That would take care of shaft and belt drive cars.

I also doubt anyone would go for it. Just seems like an elegant solution instead of spending loads of time testing multiple equiptment combos and rule changes to accomplish the goal of slowing the cars down.

Still wondering if anyone has tried it and how it affected lap times...
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:33 PM   #5792
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ok guys just som I'm clear on gearing i run the 2cell/21.5 novak combo...

it says i have to gear my car between 4.2 and 4.6...

4.2 is more top end and 4.6 is more bottom end correct?

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Old 08-24-2009, 08:40 PM   #5793
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ok guys just som I'm clear on gearing i run the 2cell/21.5 novak combo...

it says i have to gear my car between 4.2 and 4.6...

4.2 is more top end and 4.6 is more bottom end correct?

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4.2 is the lower limit (larger size pinion). You can run any ratio that is *numerically* higher than 4.2.

4.2 would have more top speed in your example.
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Correct... The lower the numerical number the more top end you'll have and the higher the numerical number the more bottom end you'll have....

thans robk

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Old 08-25-2009, 07:45 AM   #5795
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I also doubt anyone would go for it. Just seems like an elegant solution instead of spending loads of time testing multiple equiptment combos and rule changes to accomplish the goal of slowing the cars down.
I understand and I have wondered myself how a field of 2WD cars would look running the VTA style gear.

The problem with all of the powertrain combos is that we wanted to implement the technology that is more convenient and reliable without forcing everyone to go out and buy new gear. If nimh and brushed motors were still the pinnacle of technology, then we wouldnt be worried about all of the differrent powertrains being compatible. Frankly Im glad I can step up with just the purchase of a 21.5, even though Im running 4/27 in my VTA setup.
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I understand and I have wondered myself how a field of 2WD cars would look running the VTA style gear.

The problem with all of the powertrain combos is that we wanted to implement the technology that is more convenient and reliable without forcing everyone to go out and buy new gear. If nimh and brushed motors were still the pinnacle of technology, then we wouldnt be worried about all of the differrent powertrains being compatible. Frankly Im glad I can step up with just the purchase of a 21.5, even though Im running 4/27 in my VTA setup.
World GT 200mm pan cars with Vintage bodies would look pretty sweet. We'd need rims to mount the current tires to or switch to spec foams like WGT. It would probably be fast enough with a 17.5 1S setup. But again, it requires a new chassis.
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World GT 200mm pan cars with Vintage bodies would look pretty sweet. We'd need rims to mount the current tires to or switch to spec foams like WGT. It would probably be fast enough with a 17.5 1S setup. But again, it requires a new chassis.
HPI or someone like that could answer that for us. They could make Wheel/tire combos that would fit the WGT chassis and have the Vintage look. Its just that it cost so much to develop that and theres no guarantee of a return on the investment. MLP has adapters to run the VTA tires and wheels on the 200mm pan chassis.
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HPI or someone like that could answer that for us. They could make Wheel/tire combos that would fit the WGT chassis and have the Vintage look. Its just that it cost so much to develop that and theres no guarantee of a return on the investment. MLP has adapters to run the VTA tires and wheels on the 200mm pan chassis.
I should order a set from Marty just to play around. It wouldn't be a bad idea just to get some rear wheel drive rubber tire racing gear to play with just to see how it performs.
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I was looking on the MLP website for the pan car wheel adapters and couldn't find them... is the link broken, non-existant, etc? I'd like to try some vintage rubber on a pan car to see what happens...
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You may want to look into the axles that are used on the Tamiya F103GT. They are designed for touring car tires.
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I thought the way he'd gone at it was to make a pan car that mounted TC suspension components, that's how he got the HPI Vintage tires and wheels to mount up. I don't believe I've seen any sort of "adapter" for fitting the TC wheels to pan car hubs (rear) and axles (front).
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Most vintage races have enough chaos, they don't need to be rwd too!
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I think someone asked this question already but I will ask it again. I want to know if the USVTA rules will allow the Novak Ballistic 21.5 along with the original 21.5. I am only asking because I am going to buy a 21.5 and I want to buy the ballistic.
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I think someone asked this question already but I will ask it again. I want to know if the USVTA rules will allow the Novak Ballistic 21.5 along with the original 21.5. I am only asking because I am going to buy a 21.5 and I want to buy the ballistic.
Welcome to VTA...you can use the Ballistic..n/p
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Thats great news. I will definitely be buying a Novak Ballistic 21.5 than.
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