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Old 01-15-2008, 09:42 AM   #886
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This happened all the time to the early Novak 4300 and 5800's. This was our fault as racers becuse we would pull the blue sensor wire to stop them from thermalling. It was this or have your car stop in the middle of the track during a race.QUOTE]

Well there ya go! lol
A 27t motor can be cooked just as easily but that's up to the racers. The upside to the bonded rotor is the power would be limited further, the motor would be cheaper and if a racer did cook a rotor (again, not likely with the newer stuff) then the rotor could be replaced and the motor would be like new again for $15. A brushed motor would be thrown away completely after being cooked.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:54 AM   #887
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I can not elaborate at this point, but when the EXCOMM gets everything finalized, I am sure the information will be distributed.

I did not make that comment to bait you guys, just letting you know "SOMETHING" , is happening.



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Old 01-15-2008, 09:56 AM   #888
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This happened all the time to the early Novak 4300 and 5800's. This was our fault as racers becuse we would pull the blue sensor wire to stop them from thermalling. It was this or have your car stop in the middle of the track during a race.QUOTE]

Well there ya go! lol
A 27t motor can be cooked just as easily but that's up to the racers. The upside to the bonded rotor is the power would be limited further, the motor would be cheaper and if a racer did cook a rotor (again, not likely with the newer stuff) then the rotor could be replaced and the motor would be like new again for $15. A brushed motor would be thrown away completely after being cooked.
Rotors are more than $15, and did you ever hear of just replaceing the arm of your brushed motor? ($20)
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Rotors are more than $15, and did you ever hear of just replaceing the arm of your brushed motor? ($20)
And you can just zap the magnets again, or for $29 you get a brand new 27t
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:04 AM   #890
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Rotors are more than $15, and did you ever hear of just replaceing the arm of your brushed motor? ($20)
Replacing the arm in a brushed motor is a waste of time. By the time your comm is worn out so are your magnets...if not sooner.
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Actually I know a lot of people that have replaced arms in there stock cans. You find a can with good magnets and you can put just about any arm in it and get a good motor. Replace the bushings and you got a new motor!

Rotars are on average about $30
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:23 AM   #892
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Actually I know a lot of people that have replaced arms in there stock cans. You find a can with good magnets and you can put just about any arm in it and get a good motor. Replace the bushings and you got a new motor!

Rotors are on average about $30
Maybe for bashing and novice class racing but they guys I used to race in stock were brutal. They had a dozen stock motors blue printed dyno'd cut and read to run. They cut and re-brush every run at club races. Racing stock with serious racers is THE MOST expensive class of racing.

In FL you can kill the magnets in a Stock motor in one run on a hot day if you are over geared.

I switched to 19T 2 years ago where we run Orion, Reedy and CP motors with silver brushes. You can't kill the magnets in those cans and the brushes last 15-25 runs....still have to cut the comm every run though.

Now I run Mod and 10.5 BL and I don't have to think about motors
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And you can just zap the magnets again, or for $29 you get a brand new 27t
That zapper gadget cost`s how much ?


Sure glad I don`t need one of those anymore...

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Old 01-15-2008, 10:28 AM   #894
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Actually the two poeple I am thinking of were top stock racers. We only rebrush every race for large races on 100+ days.

Not trying to argue and the guys you run with may think they need it but I ran VERY competative stock for years and would run 3-6 runs on a set of brushes and ran the motor until the comm exploded!
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did I miss something what's with the stormer website saying 17.5 is the new roar stock motor?
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did I miss something what's with the stormer website saying 17.5 is the new roar stock motor?
It doesnt exactly say that. It says:

Rumor has it that a 17.5
will be the new ROAR brushless stock.
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I was making the point of replacing the rotor on a motor that was cooked. If one "cooked" a 27t the magnets would've been over heated too. New brushes every 3-6 runs? That's two sets a day @ $3.50+ a pair? Are you kidding?

point made.

Replacement bonded rotor from Novak's website:
http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...=NOV5906/135.0
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did I miss something what's with the stormer website saying 17.5 is the new roar stock motor?
Nope...
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